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Either move the ISY Firmware to 4.2.23 or the UI to 2.2.18 Options is not working as expected. which may be the result of having Firmware and UI at different levels. "I can synchronize device using HL while it is in linking mode...What's up with that?????" What is the question? Linking mode keeps the device from going to sleep for 4 minutes.

Are there any Icons to the left of the Motion Sensor nodes for 31.F3.4E? What is being changed on the Options popup? Click Help | About. What is displayed for Firmware What is displayed for UI

Looks like the trace was not at LEVEL 3 or no changes were made to the Options. No changes were attempted/traced. The first trace was trying to update 31.F3.64. Perhaps the wrong MS was selected when Options clicked. Sun 03/01/2015 03:36:58 PM : [All ] Writing 33 bytes to devices Sun 03/01/2015 03:36:58 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 31 F3 64 0F 0D 00 Sun 03/01/2015 03:36:58 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 31.F3.64 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Sun 03/01/2015 03:37:07 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 31 F3 64 0F 0D 00 Sun 03/01/2015 03:37:07 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 31.F3.64 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Sun 03/01/2015 03:37:16 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 31 F3 64 0F 0D 00 Sun 03/01/2015 03:37:16 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 31.F3.64 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Sun 03/01/2015 03:37:20 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [31 F3 64 1] [ERR] [1] uom=0 prec=-1 Sun 03/01/2015 03:37:20 PM : [ 31 F3 64 1] ERR 1

That is from 31.F3.4E, not 31 F3 64.

Post an event trace of the Motion On/Off messages.

Make sure 31.F3.64 is the device that was put into linking mode. The trace shows that Insteon address did not respond to the commands sent to that address.

Run Tools | Diagnostics | Event Viewer at LEVEL 3. Put the Motion Sensor into linking mode. Attempt Option change and post event trace. There is an Icon, next to last at the bottom right of event viewer window, to Copy to Clipboard. Paste the trace into the post Is the Motion Sensor near a Dual Band device? I suggest being close to the 2413 PLM for this test.

Happy to help.

Keypad Owner's Manual page 16-17 has description for moving from 8 to 6 and 6 to 8 Changing to 6-Button Configuration 1)Replace the 8-button plate with the 6-button plate - Attach the change-out plate to the switch body by aligning the tabs and snapping into place 2)Gently pull the Set button out as far as it will go 3)Wait 10 seconds 4)While simultaneously holding the On and Off buttons, carefully push the Set button back in, flush with the trim frame 5)Once the Set button is pushed in, continue holding the On and Off buttons for 3 seconds, and then release KeypadLinc will (Beep) KeypadLinc is now in 6 Button Mode

Running in non-toggle mode means only On/Fast On commands are desired. If the Mini Remote should send On and Off commands it must run in toggle mode. EDIT: unlike a KeypadLinc which supports a non toggle On or a non toggle Off, the Mini Remote supports a non toggle On only. The Mini Remote does not support a non toggle Off mode.

Not sure what the question is. This is an 8 button RemoteLinc2 (Mini Remote) in non-toggle mode. The trace shows two normal On commands to indicate non-toggle mode followed by a Fast On Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 00.00.02 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [std-Group ] 1C.27.E3-->Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [1C 27 E3 2] [DON] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [ 1C 27 E3 2] DON 0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 00.00.02 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [std-Group ] 1C.27.E3-->Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:35 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:36 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 22.80.0B 41 11 02 LTONRR (02) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:36 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 1C.27.E3-->ISY/PLM Group=2, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:36 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 00.00.02 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [std-Group ] 1C.27.E3-->Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [1C 27 E3 2] [DON] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [ 1C 27 E3 2] DON 0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 00.00.02 CB 11 00 LTONRR (00) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [std-Group ] 1C.27.E3-->Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 22.80.0B 41 11 02 LTONRR (02) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 1C.27.E3-->ISY/PLM Group=2, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:42 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 00.00.02 CB 12 00 LTON-F (00) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [std-Group ] 1C.27.E3-->Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [1C 27 E3 2] [DFON] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [ 1C 27 E3 2] DFON 0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 00.00.02 C7 12 00 LTON-F (00) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [std-Group ] 1C.27.E3-->Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 22.80.0B 41 12 02 LTON-F (02) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 1C.27.E3-->ISY/PLM Group=2, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:47 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:48 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1C.27.E3 22.80.0B 43 12 02 LTON-F (02) Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:48 PM : [std-Cleanup ] 1C.27.E3-->ISY/PLM Group=2, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0 Sat 02/28/2015 12:14:48 PM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored.

There is an Icon on the bottom of the Event Viewer, next to last on bottom right, that copies trace to Clipboard. Then Paste the trace into a post.

Can you add the device to the ISY with Tools | Diagnostics | Event Viewer at LEVEL 3 running. It will show what device type the device is reporting. Make sure there has not been an error in reading the Insteon address; 8 for B, etc. Odd that a new 2476D would identify itself as an ICON device no longer in production.

There is no Scene On/Off test in Insteon. Could set a State Variable in Program 1 that Program 2 tests.

Duration is not yet supported by SwitchLinc or Keypad

Only send a Relay On when door is Open.

The Insteon devices support 1,000,000 updates. No chance of causing a problem beyond the devices normal life cycle.

The ISY Wiki is a good source. This link covers various Program statements including Wait and Repeat that allow If section to reevaluate. http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:Program_Commands

Insteon dimmers are not designed for use with CFLs.

Tap the PLM Set button 4 times to start the RF beacon test. Look at the color of the LED blinking on the OutletLinc. I would expect it to be blinking Green. This test is to explain why the Hops Left=1 is occurring. When done tap the PLM Set button once to complete the beacon test. If not blinking or blinking Red there is something to look at.

The Program will trigger with a False evaluation invoking the Else clause. EDIT: at a minimum a change in Garage-Sensor state will trigger the Program. The variables $Garage_Light_On and $GarageDoorOpen could trigger the Program as well if they are State variables.

Feet does not mean much. My detached garage is some 300 wire feet away and works okay. Has more to do with what is also powered from that circuit. The event trace is showing Max Hops Hops=3, Hops Left=1 which is fine if on the opposite 120v leg as the PLM. Run the 4 tap Set button beacon test to see if OutletLinc is on opposite 120v leg. The Hops Left=0 is a duplicate copy of the message from the I/O Linc. The Hops Left count is 1 on the primary response. Tue 02/24/2015 04:44:11 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 2B F8 FE 0F 19 00 Tue 02/24/2015 04:44:11 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 2B.F8.FE 0F 19 00 06 LTSREQ (LIGHT) Tue 02/24/2015 04:44:12 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2B.F8.FE 2A.A2.D3 27 00 00 (00) Tue 02/24/2015 04:44:12 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 2B.F8.FE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1 Tue 02/24/2015 04:44:12 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 2B.F8.FE 2A.A2.D3 23 00 00 (00) Tue 02/24/2015 04:44:12 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 2B.F8.FE-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=0

My mistake, sorry. That is the newest OutletLinc that controls both outlets and is Dual Band. The older OutletLinc 2472D (dimmer) is also Dual band. The 2473S relay is powerline only.

"I have always wondered what the Hops Left and Max Hops numbers meant." Max Hops indicates the number of devices that are allow to repeat message at full strength. The larger Max Hops the longer it takes a message to arrive at its destination. Hops Left indicates how many devices (Hops) had to repeat the message. An Insteon Controller device normally starts out with Max Hops=1 for best Insteon network speed. If the Responder does not ACK, the Controller bumps the Max Hops count and tries again. There is an insteondetails.pdf doc on insteon.com that covers this in detail. Shows Insteon network speed possible at each Max Hops count.

Normally Hops Left=0 is bad but in this case it is on a message that has Max Hops=1 so no comm problem indicated. At insteon.com there is an insteondetails.pdf doc that covers some of the Insteon messages. Also SmartLabs has released what was confidential information (no longer confidential) covering Insteon internals. insteon.com/developer/#devdocs