gregkinney

The updated version would be a plain on/off switch 2477S: https://shop.insteon.com/products/on-off-switch. You can create the timer function in an ISY program.

Why has this post made me so happy? I followed it so I could see what was happening. I feel like for this new user it's like the scene in the Wizard of Oz where Dorothy opens the door and it goes from black and white to color.

I can't specifically address your 4 questions, but wanted to share my experience with Keen vents (similar to Flair). My goal was to even out the temperatures. I have an upstairs area with 4 bedrooms and a hallway. I spent maybe $1500 on Keen vents. I did not experience any significant changes - maybe 1 degree better balanced with still major temperature differences from room to room. I pulled the Keen vents and went to an electronic damper system. It was less expensive than Keen with professional install - I think around $1k. All rooms are completely even in temperature now, all of the time. www.zoningsupply.com. Before the electronic dampers, I went with manual dampers so I could manually control the amount of air going to each vent. This worked perfectly in the moment, but it just required manual adjustment from season to season so I eventually upgraded to electronic. But even the manual dampers were so much better than the vents. The vents just really didn't work. It makes sense once you look into it. When you close a vent, instead of redirecting the air, it just increases the static pressure. Before you spend $2,500, I would consider testing it by manually closing some of your vents to see what happens.

Ok I'll get off my high link high horse! That's all I have to offer, hopefully @IndyMike can help you like he helped me.

How many Insteon devices do you have? And how many scenes do you have? And of those scenes, how many of them are large? Such as a whole home scene?

@sbooke I just went through this exact same issue. My ISY also said I had 44, or 28, or 109 links. I deleted the motion sensor and related program, deleted a very large scene to reduce the link count to see if it was too many links, then added back the motion sensor. Tried a program and all worked well.

Problem solved. I deleted some large scenes and now the MS2 is working via program. So very frustrating. Wish there was a better way to figure out link count. Can't wait for the new PLM. Thank you all for the help.

Ok I re-read your post. I went to re-write the program to say if dimmer is switched on, then turn on study cans. When I logged back into the admin, the dimmer was gone. So I added it again, wrote the program, and it did nothing. Guessing these two things point to link limit. Now how to reduce links...

Is there any way for me to determine whether I am over link limit besides the count? I'll try again first thing tomorrow morning if not but I am losing faith in that method. I remember doing it years ago and it wasn't difficult. The numbers were not all over the place like they are now. I am using Aeotec Multisensor 7. My experience has been great. They were easy to add. I've been using them for lux for a couple years and they have performed well. In my tests for motion, so far they have been instant and accurate.

I tried the restore modem, then tried to add another MS1 and it did not work in a program. Regarding PLM link counting: I tried it this morning and got link results: 4, 27, 268, 6. Abandoning the count method, I tried another way: I took a spare dimmer module I have in the closet. I added it to ISY, set a program to turn it on at a certain time, and it worked. Based on that very long logic, I believe that proves that it's not a link capacity issue. I appreciate your help but I think I'm at the end of the time I'm going to spend on the project. I have a zwave motion sensor that I was using for luxe. I tried to do my night light project with it in the program using motion, and it works perfectly. So I guess I'll abandon Insteon motion sensors and opt for zwave ones (although I hate zwave tech - I will always opt for Insteon when I can because it's so much more reliable). Oh well. I'll live to fight another day.

@paulbates yesssssss! That's exciting.

Is there a better way to check the PLM link thing? The results were so erratic. I have a ton of stuff. I had an issue years ago and tech support determined it was because I exceeded PLM link capacity. I deleted a whole home scene which was hundreds of links and I've been fine ever since. Wondering if I've crept back up.

1. Program folder is not disabled 2. I power cycled the PLM and ISY 3. Five tests with results: 24, 46, 486, 288, 4 I checked event viewer. When you say "trigger the motion sensor", do you mean basically create motion? I did that. First, I did it with a scene to make sure all was working. I did it with the scene and the motion triggered the light to come on. I did not see anything in the event viewer with the motion sensor - only the address of the light that came on. I then deleted the scene and tried it in the program. I did not see anything in the event viewer, nor did I see anything in the program executing. The small line on the left of the program icon was red, the larger portion on the right was white, and it stayed that color.

Yes, I chose control switched on

I'm diving into motion sensors for the first time. I have an MS1 and MS2. I created a scene to turn a light on with motion and all went well. As usual I need to add a lot of parameters, so I went to try it in a program and I cannot get either sensor to work. I deleted the scenes, factory reset both motion sensors, and started from scratch. But I cannot get any functionality from the motion sensor in a program. I started my program as simple as I could: bed nightlight Copy Copy - [ID 0325][Parent 01C3] If '4F.8A.FD.1 Motion' is switched On Then Set 'Rooms / Study / Study Cans' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') And nothing happens with the above program. Yet, if I have a scene with the motion as the controller and the 'Study Cans' as responder, it works. Any ideas?