gregkinney

Ok I'll get off my high link high horse! That's all I have to offer, hopefully @IndyMike can help you like he helped me.

How many Insteon devices do you have? And how many scenes do you have? And of those scenes, how many of them are large? Such as a whole home scene?

@sbooke I just went through this exact same issue. My ISY also said I had 44, or 28, or 109 links. I deleted the motion sensor and related program, deleted a very large scene to reduce the link count to see if it was too many links, then added back the motion sensor. Tried a program and all worked well.

I'm envious of all the other activities here. I'm in Oklahoma where we get maybe a few weeks out of the year that are enjoyable camping weather IMO. I used to go a few times a year before kids, but they have me pretty exhausted and appreciating my creature comforts at the end of the day. I do take them once a year but hopefully more when they get older. I enjoy playing games with the kiddos and volunteering up at their school. My 6 year old is already a complete movie buff and films are something I deeply enjoy. He gets them on a level already that blows my mind - he told me the other day that the score in the movie we were watching was done by the same composer as a movie we watched a couple weeks ago. But if I'm being completely selfish, what just turns me on and me alone, it all comes back to programming and smart home. I'm an amateur self-taught programmer so I get a lot of satisfaction writing little python scripts that do things. I have a Home Remote app on the phones in our house that run the entire place (definitely a labor of love, probably 1,000 hours invested), and then another version on the wall in the kitchen that is like at-a-glance type feel. Quote of the day, weather, calendars, etc.

Problem solved. I deleted some large scenes and now the MS2 is working via program. So very frustrating. Wish there was a better way to figure out link count. Can't wait for the new PLM. Thank you all for the help.

@larryllix You're as bad as my 8 year old daughter 😆. I woke up to this:

Ok I re-read your post. I went to re-write the program to say if dimmer is switched on, then turn on study cans. When I logged back into the admin, the dimmer was gone. So I added it again, wrote the program, and it did nothing. Guessing these two things point to link limit. Now how to reduce links...

Is there any way for me to determine whether I am over link limit besides the count? I'll try again first thing tomorrow morning if not but I am losing faith in that method. I remember doing it years ago and it wasn't difficult. The numbers were not all over the place like they are now. I am using Aeotec Multisensor 7. My experience has been great. They were easy to add. I've been using them for lux for a couple years and they have performed well. In my tests for motion, so far they have been instant and accurate.

It's a story for the children. If something works 99.9% of the time, what happens that one time when it doesn't work as described? If it means that the Christmas lights do not turn on as scheduled, ok no big deal. But if it means a table saw turns on, well, it makes you consider the appropriate use cases for automation. Most importantly, no one was hurt and entire structures were not lost. Additionally, what an amazing neighbor and fire department you have.

I tried the restore modem, then tried to add another MS1 and it did not work in a program. Regarding PLM link counting: I tried it this morning and got link results: 4, 27, 268, 6. Abandoning the count method, I tried another way: I took a spare dimmer module I have in the closet. I added it to ISY, set a program to turn it on at a certain time, and it worked. Based on that very long logic, I believe that proves that it's not a link capacity issue. I appreciate your help but I think I'm at the end of the time I'm going to spend on the project. I have a zwave motion sensor that I was using for luxe. I tried to do my night light project with it in the program using motion, and it works perfectly. So I guess I'll abandon Insteon motion sensors and opt for zwave ones (although I hate zwave tech - I will always opt for Insteon when I can because it's so much more reliable). Oh well. I'll live to fight another day.

@paulbates yesssssss! That's exciting.

Is there a better way to check the PLM link thing? The results were so erratic. I have a ton of stuff. I had an issue years ago and tech support determined it was because I exceeded PLM link capacity. I deleted a whole home scene which was hundreds of links and I've been fine ever since. Wondering if I've crept back up.

1. Program folder is not disabled 2. I power cycled the PLM and ISY 3. Five tests with results: 24, 46, 486, 288, 4 I checked event viewer. When you say "trigger the motion sensor", do you mean basically create motion? I did that. First, I did it with a scene to make sure all was working. I did it with the scene and the motion triggered the light to come on. I did not see anything in the event viewer with the motion sensor - only the address of the light that came on. I then deleted the scene and tried it in the program. I did not see anything in the event viewer, nor did I see anything in the program executing. The small line on the left of the program icon was red, the larger portion on the right was white, and it stayed that color.

Yes, I chose control switched on

I'm diving into motion sensors for the first time. I have an MS1 and MS2. I created a scene to turn a light on with motion and all went well. As usual I need to add a lot of parameters, so I went to try it in a program and I cannot get either sensor to work. I deleted the scenes, factory reset both motion sensors, and started from scratch. But I cannot get any functionality from the motion sensor in a program. I started my program as simple as I could: bed nightlight Copy Copy - [ID 0325][Parent 01C3] If '4F.8A.FD.1 Motion' is switched On Then Set 'Rooms / Study / Study Cans' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') And nothing happens with the above program. Yet, if I have a scene with the motion as the controller and the 'Study Cans' as responder, it works. Any ideas?