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I believe writes links to both devices, if the old device is DOA I suppose that those will fail? meaning the writes will take longer.
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https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:Replacing_a_Device there is the wiki article. Basically if the old device is in a folder move it to the root level first. add the new device to the isy. click the old device in the tree right click and choose replace device and pick the new device from that context menu. the caveat is that both devices should be powered up. I usually power the new device with a temp cord that plugs in, factory reset it, add to the ISY, do the replace. then go install the new switch in place of the old after the ISY is happy.
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I was busy looking for @kclenden post linked below which is a slightly different version of what @larryllix dinged in with while i was looking: PS: your first program "Robot Charging - [ID 005A][Parent 0059][Run At Startup]" without an IF body shouldn't have [Run at Startup] enabled, and I believe most people disable that type of program but I've done it without disabling.
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@BizywkJust double checking.... but does Help > About show the same exact versions for UI and Firmware? What happans if you try adding an If, something simple like: AAA TEST Copy - [ID 013B][Parent 0001] If From 8:51:00AM To 8:52:00AM (same day) Then $stemp_test += 1 Else $stemp_test += 1000 Adjust the times to a couple minutes later than your current time and save. In the example Then should run at 8:51, and Else at 8:52.
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Help > About Is your firmware and UI version Identical?
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While the exact answer to your question appears above I'll contribute another troubleshooting method for your arsenal. Switch the the "summary" sub-tab of programs. Many people don't realize this table is column sortable. Find the columns for "last run time" and "last finish time" and click the column header to resort by that column, clicking a second time reverses the sort.
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I agree with @Geddy if you actually have an ISY-994... However your title indicates ISY-99i. if that's the case, don't try to use the linked launcher. But do make sure your using the correct admin console for your firmware version. I'm also afraid there's no support for the 99 anymore, so if you have one you should think about upgrading it.
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Clear the Java cache, and then follow the instructions in the thread linked below to use The Launcher. The Launcher is the newer method of accessing the admin console that always gets the correct version to match your firmware.
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your new panel should come with an installation manual. the manual should have pages with the programming worksheet. Watch out for errata sheets too, I haven't done a Vista in 20 years, and it was a different series so they may have gotten better, but they used to be famous for "this is the updated step 12 on page 30".....
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The only deviation I would add to @Bumbershoot, is if the new ISY has a z-wave board you'll need to check the version. I don't know when UDI started shipping them with 500 series boards (and you mentioned it's been in the box for a year). If you find the new unit does still have a 300 series board and you're not using any z-wave you might need to either remove the board from the ISY before going to v5.3.1. (I'd check with support@universal-devices.com). if you are using Z-wave then the furthest you can upgrade the firmware is 5.0.16C. (then you can upgrade the z-wave board at your leisure and then finally move to 5.3.1 after).
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They are easy to find type "2 pole 30 amp contactor 120 volt coil" into amazon search (be wary of amazon search, it tends to mix in others that don't exactly match, double check your choice for all values including coil voltage). Be aware that some are noisy, some are quieter than others. I prefer to stick with name brands like siemens, Eaton, Square D, etc. You'll also need a proper enclosure, if it's metal be certain to follow proper grounding protocols.
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If you've resolved your problem be sure to close the loop in other threads where you have queries hanging, so that no on needs to spend time on a resolved issue. Here is one:
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If you enabled Run on Start for every program that's typically unneeded. Depending on the program and what it does Run at Start may or may not create undesired behavior. Typically ISY programs run on an event queue basis, "Run at Startup" forces an extra run at startup. If the UI and Firmware versions don't match exactly then that's why programs look wonky. Follow the instructions in the following thread to use The Launcher. It will ensure that you are launching the correct version of the admin console for your firmware version.
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Be certain to notice the LEVEL dropdown at the bottom of the window. Changing to Level 3 is what turns on Device Communications.
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Have you recently deleted a scene? I believe the looks like those attached to scenes. DOF is the off action. I recently accidentally deleted an insteon device while repurposing it. I meant to remove it from the scene it was in but instead removed it from the ISY. Then I just deleted the scene it was in. Later I found programs with simmilar comments added IN PLACE of the previous scene commands. .
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1 - Highlight the row in the Summary tab by clicking the name of the program. 2. Right click and choose "Enable Run at Startup" (with the cursor on "Enable Run at Startup" as shown you must left click to make the action occur) 3. View the Run at Startup column to ensure it now says ON. 4. Done. Alternatively I just noticed (I've never used until now) you can also click the row to hi-light it, then use that dropdown above the table to choose "Enable Run at Startup" then click the Apply button to the enable the attribute. If these steps are not working for you please check the Help > About menu and make certain that your "Firmware version" and "UI version" numbers match exactly.
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I just played with one 100 Watt equivalent A19 style that I can see from my laptop it seemed to go completely out at 6 or 7% I didn't go take the shade off tho so that I could actually see the bulb, that's plugged into a lamplinc plug in module. The difference made me wonder of age or hardware revision of Insteon made a difference. When we originally bought the A19's I set up a demo with a 100 watt incandescent side by side. The warm glow did get yellower faster, or more specifically at higher dim level, but with each at 100% neither my wife or I could see much difference. (She used to own a lamp and lighting store and is pickier than I am about color temp) The candelabra style bulbs that I have are really only used in carriage lights outside and come on at 15% from Sunset to Sunrise. They very warm in color, in emergency mode they do shoot up to 100% and my memory is pretty white, I'll have to look at them in that mode again tonight. I'll check what % they extinguish at then too
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You'll like the Phillips Warm Glow... they are the best dimming bulb made in my opinion. Warm Glow (or for color Hue) is all I buy now, I do still have some cheap bulbs in the garage and storage room etc. but for the most part I've changed over most to warm glow.
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Sorry, yes it's correct. I would have called it out if it wasn't. When I type these programs in the forum I'm doing it off the tips of my fingers and memory (and maybe cut and paste from a program posted above) and not using the admin console so their may be variations in the format, you correctly selected "then path" as opposed to my just labeling it (then) I'm confused where we are with [Run at Startup]. On the Programs | Summary tag we want to see: Except with your Program name "Gutter Heat Initialize", but see how on my example it says "On" in the second column over? this will also add square bracketed [Run at Startup] to the end of the first line when you page the program in the forum, like this: Startup/UptimeCounter - [ID 008D][Parent 0001][Run At Startup] What "Run at Startup" actually accomplishes is forcing this program to Run during the ISY boot process. The Reason we want this little two line program to Run at Startup is this condition scenario: You're away on vacation, A winter storm arrives, the Gutter Heat turns on, melting begins... then the power fails, everything stops. When the power utility turns the power back on the Insteon modules will return in the ON state, but when the ISY boots up it won't initialize the programs correctly because the snow sensor and the temp alarm are likely already calling for melt. So the solution is this two line program, being tagged to Run at Startup.... it will wait 5 minutes, then turn off the Gutter Heat, at the end of the off loop if it needs to be on, it will turn back on but it it no longer needs to be on it will stay off. Edit to add: it doesn't matter if this runs when the heat is off (summer) it just makes sure its off. the real issue is that the OFF program is disabled, so we need to make sure it's running and the best way to do that is just force off state anytime we boot the ISY, so that if the gutter heat is turned on the ON program will have started the off program. So to specifically answer the question "Also am I supposed to run the Enable Run at Startup in right hand context menu after ISY starts up ?" No, you don't have to do anything after the ISY starts up, but we do want the "Run at Startup" program attribute turned on for this program. and to this question: "I forgot to ask whether or not the last program "Gutter Heater Initialize (run at startup)" ) was enabled or disabled ?" Enabled is correct.
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Hmmm, I started to say Yes it did, but you must have typed the run at startup in the title. the Actual automatically added tag would have been [Run At Startup] Did you switch to the summary tab? did you see the option? I'm not sure what "did not work" means. Did you select that and nothing happened?
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@satwarYou might add one more program, the condition it handles is what happens if the ISY reboots while the heat is on. Gutter Heater Initialize (run at startup) If (nothing) Then Wait 5 minutes Run Program 'Gutter Heater Control OFF (disabled)' (Then) Else (nothing) The 5 minutes give the ISY time to finish booting up and for the Insteon Query on startup to finish. Then force runs the off program. Hint: to enable run at startup, create the program and save it, then Switch to the Programs | Summary tab, click the name of the program there to hi-light it then right click and you will see "Enable Run At Startup" in the context menu.
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PLM power light not on
MrBill replied to smarthome_newbie's topic in New user? Having trouble? Start here
@smarthome_newbie My bet is on the power supply. There have been quite a few lately it seems. Note that the voltage requirements are very wide, meaning a wide variety power supplies will work. UDI also sells a 12v 1amp replacement in the store. -
Burn out a Insteon 2477D dimmer?
MrBill replied to Stearnness's topic in New user? Having trouble? Start here
The safest way is to attach too large a load. It's max is 600 watts, so if you connected it to say 1000w incandescent load it would burn out. Another nice load that would be over sized would be to wire it up to a circuit with a space heater or hair dryer plugged in. I don't recommend it but the nuclear option is just connect the red lead to ground and turn it on (and black and white to hot an neutral as normal). Be a safe distance away and consider eye protection, the pop should be short lived and contained tho. If the breaker doesn't trip don't leave it powered long. -
I blew up my sytem when I tried 5.3.0
MrBill replied to btwinc's topic in New user? Having trouble? Start here
Yes but to upgrade from a version less that 5.0.9 you must use a later admin console to perform upgrade. Then you can go back to using the Launcher. Per the installation instructions for the later v5.x versions: "You must use the 5.0.9 Admin Console or greater to upgrade to this release (5.3.0)." In a different recent post Michel gave the URL to the 5.3.1 console suggesting if it was used it would ask you to upgrade the firmware: -
Programs look as expected! If you right click the on program and 'run then' i would expect it to cycle the sensors on then immediately off. I don't have any idea how your sensor works but perhaps crushed ice to test?