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Got it. Very helpful. Appreciate both your and Sumguy' s assistance on all this.

Thanks. I had briefly looked at that another time for a different reason, but will go back and thoroughly digest it. So, just to make doubly sure I understand, if I have a state variable in an if statement, the if will trigger when that variable changes value, but otherwise not? What I am trying to avoid is the situation where I am sitting at home (with my state variable at 1) and then when 10 pm comes around, and the state variable is at 1 (unchanged) the program does NOT run. If I am understanding you correctly, it will not as it would be looking for a change in state commencing at 10 (or after).

One last thing...I learned something I did not know, that a disabled program WILL run if called by another program. One question in my mind, if a program contains a variable value in IF, does it only trigger if that variable has changed to that variable value? In other words if the IF line says IF variable X equals 1, and time is 10pm until 2 am, and if variable it sitting on 1 when 10 pm rolls around, will the program run?

Thanks .. very helpful. One thing I liked about Dbuss's solution was the out of the box idea of divorcing from the binary home/away state variable to broaden a number that could be used outside that binary paradigm. On the other hand your solution seems simpler. Ocam's Razor? I am tremendously grateful to you both. This is why I suggested a programming place on this forum. We all tend to get stuck and other ideas are fabulously helpful. Thanks to Administrator GEDDY for this!

All excellent points. I have a bunch of holiday lights I control using lamp controllers. I just will not bank on eisy giving me a schedule for them.

I will try that, great ideas. You have been so helpful!! Thank you, will report back.

I had also tried to put the program into another folder which only enabled running the program if "Chris is at Home "was 0. and then running the rest in the nested program, neither seemed to work. (leaving out of course, the first line of IF)

Here is what I had: Arrival Home - [ID 0020][Parent 0001] If $Chris_is_home is 0 And From Sunset To 11:00:00PM (same day) And $Chris_is_home is 1 Then Set 'Front Entry / Front Porch Light / ZY 012 Front Porch Light' On Set 'Front Entry / Entryway light / Entry way overhead light 011' On Set 'Side Deck Lights / Side Deck Lights' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Thanks sumguy. Not sure I am fully understanding. Can you give me what each program function is..eg. Does the first program act to "weed out" turning lights on if I am already at home? What disables program 2? Sorry...I am just a little dense.

MacGuyver!

Yes, and somehow that did not work as expected. Also assume the situation where I am already home at sunset, not arriving home. I would not want it to run under that circumstance.

I managed to get some great help here and have a working geofence for home. I not only have the HOME node with my phoone showing if I am home or not. I also set up a state variable that varies with my occupancy between 0 and 1, depending. I don't seem to be able to write a program that will trigger lights coming on when I arrive home after dark. Does some one have examples of what they have done? Thanks

The issue is now, for me, of general or academic curiosity as I gave up on the X10 switch and put in a Zwave one that is working beautifully, and can also be used in a scene. I think I have so many signal suckers in my house that trying to filter them would be like playing whack a mole. II may use some X-10 where it works, but not planning to waste an entire day (as I have) trying to run down "why's? and how comes?. Thanks everyone for your assistance here, and it might be nice for a larger audience to know what the new PLM's can and cannot do. Chris

I do not see X10 events in eisy event viewer even when the PLM and Maxi Controller share the same outlet. The maxi controller is working as the light is on and I have verified x10 devices can respond to it.

Thanks IndyMike.... the Insteon question...does that required 2 SignalLincs? I have 1, but understand they are out of production for a 2nd one. I sort of lost interest years back when my isy install here started running into problems, it worked but I gave up with some issues. This time I will stop until have each current issue worked out. (I am also starting to wonder if some of my old Z Wave devices (mainly sensors) just were never designed to play nice with the current Z-Wave stuff and eisy... 'nother story, shelved until I get this figured out.) Oh, and, I just have a single meter.

I think I may have figured this one out.... It possibly has to do with the house wiring here. I inherited this large 4000 sq ft house. The service entrance at the interior breaker panel(S) - there are two rather large ones, EACH has it own power feed. I am believing that they are not duplicated legs of a single power feed to the house split between the 2 panels .(Maybe somehow a three phase main input separated out into separate 240 V panels that are not interconnected.) I have the XTB-IIR wired out of one panel. I think that the outlets I have been using for the PLM are out of the other panel. Does this make sense? If so, I might have to group any X-10 devices onto the panel distribution with the PLM attached... making staying with x-10 even more unlikely. Of course this also affects Insteon on the powerline side of the dual nand, leaving it Xmit only if they are not on the right panel distribution with the PLM. (More Z wave). Interested in your collective thoughts or experiences in any setup like this. (Candidly, having done my share of wiring the electrician who wired this house was not someone I would hire.)

My PLM is a 2413S, Ver 2.7, and the Firmware is 9E.

My bad, I forgot to mention the light switch is an x 10 device, so cannot act as a responder. Which left me to ponder a programming solution. (yes. I could change it..but if I can program it to work....)

I am not sure where to post this, so I'll start here in a casual setting. I am not a newbie but my programming skills need some "brushing up" (or maybe I just need to educate myself.) I have not figured a simple way to accomplish the following: Motion Sensor A senses motion, Turns on Light B Once motion sensor has returned to off state, Light is turned off. Does this need two programs?

I am using the 2.0 version and state variables, no issues so far once I got it figured out.

I might reiterate the problem is NOT that my X10 modules do not work, it is just that the only X10 commands that show up in the event viewer have to be eisy generated.

Even when I plug my Maxi Controller directly into the XTB-RII port (which blasts out super strong signal onto the powerline (and which I might add works on the device 200 feet from the house) still nada on the event viewer. Me? I think insteon dropped the receive function for X10 in their newest serial PLM. What I see in the events tab when I see an X10 command is generated internal to eisy and does not rely on a signal being received by the PLM. Anyway that is my current hypothesis. Thanks for the replies guys. Chris

My PLM is the serial version, just bought in December and is the newest version. I am using the USB to serial cable adapter. I do not have the ability to see the PLM firmware that I can find. I have the X10 module. My X10 works. After my post last evening, I continued to fiddle with the X10 device (which happens to be an old Insteon switch that I could (and did) force an X10 address on, so it is now is in essence an X10 switch. I added it to the tree as a a Generic X10 device, and it was accepted with my added X10 address A1. Eisy can control the switch - and the event view does show an X10 transmit signal of "A1 ON". But.... using my X10 Pro Maxi Controller, which places an X10 command on the powerline, while it does in fact act to toggle the switch as it should, its X10 command shows up nowhere on the event log when I do so. Trying to figure out why that is so.

I know it probably seems like fingernails on a chalkboard to the UD folks.. But I still have a number of X10 devices which, thanks to my XTB-IIR are still pretty functional. I am bringing up a brand new eisy after enjoying a good ISY992i system. Just decided to start fresh. Am at the point where I am starting to play with a few X10 devices. In my experimentation, I notice I cannot see X10 commands in any viewer, it is as if they do not exist. I note I have a just purchased and am using an Insteon PLM newest model. Is this an Insteon issue or a UD issue? Or is it the PLM? Is there a way to keep the new (serial) one I have and still get the X10 line activity into the eisy event viewers somehow (like using the unused port my serial PLM leaves behind?) I can more or less work around this but sure would be nice to have that data. Chris

NOAA is essentially the meteorological (met) data from your closest airport reporting same. Useful, sure. Just so you know.