glacier991

I think I may have figured this one out.... It possibly has to do with the house wiring here. I inherited this large 4000 sq ft house. The service entrance at the interior breaker panel(S) - there are two rather large ones, EACH has it own power feed. I am believing that they are not duplicated legs of a single power feed to the house split between the 2 panels .(Maybe somehow a three phase main input separated out into separate 240 V panels that are not interconnected.) I have the XTB-IIR wired out of one panel. I think that the outlets I have been using for the PLM are out of the other panel. Does this make sense? If so, I might have to group any X-10 devices onto the panel distribution with the PLM attached... making staying with x-10 even more unlikely. Of course this also affects Insteon on the powerline side of the dual nand, leaving it Xmit only if they are not on the right panel distribution with the PLM. (More Z wave). Interested in your collective thoughts or experiences in any setup like this. (Candidly, having done my share of wiring the electrician who wired this house was not someone I would hire.)

My PLM is a 2413S, Ver 2.7, and the Firmware is 9E.

My bad, I forgot to mention the light switch is an x 10 device, so cannot act as a responder. Which left me to ponder a programming solution. (yes. I could change it..but if I can program it to work....)

I am not sure where to post this, so I'll start here in a casual setting. I am not a newbie but my programming skills need some "brushing up" (or maybe I just need to educate myself.) I have not figured a simple way to accomplish the following: Motion Sensor A senses motion, Turns on Light B Once motion sensor has returned to off state, Light is turned off. Does this need two programs?

I am using the 2.0 version and state variables, no issues so far once I got it figured out.

I might reiterate the problem is NOT that my X10 modules do not work, it is just that the only X10 commands that show up in the event viewer have to be eisy generated.

Even when I plug my Maxi Controller directly into the XTB-RII port (which blasts out super strong signal onto the powerline (and which I might add works on the device 200 feet from the house) still nada on the event viewer. Me? I think insteon dropped the receive function for X10 in their newest serial PLM. What I see in the events tab when I see an X10 command is generated internal to eisy and does not rely on a signal being received by the PLM. Anyway that is my current hypothesis. Thanks for the replies guys. Chris

My PLM is the serial version, just bought in December and is the newest version. I am using the USB to serial cable adapter. I do not have the ability to see the PLM firmware that I can find. I have the X10 module. My X10 works. After my post last evening, I continued to fiddle with the X10 device (which happens to be an old Insteon switch that I could (and did) force an X10 address on, so it is now is in essence an X10 switch. I added it to the tree as a a Generic X10 device, and it was accepted with my added X10 address A1. Eisy can control the switch - and the event view does show an X10 transmit signal of "A1 ON". But.... using my X10 Pro Maxi Controller, which places an X10 command on the powerline, while it does in fact act to toggle the switch as it should, its X10 command shows up nowhere on the event log when I do so. Trying to figure out why that is so.

I know it probably seems like fingernails on a chalkboard to the UD folks.. But I still have a number of X10 devices which, thanks to my XTB-IIR are still pretty functional. I am bringing up a brand new eisy after enjoying a good ISY992i system. Just decided to start fresh. Am at the point where I am starting to play with a few X10 devices. In my experimentation, I notice I cannot see X10 commands in any viewer, it is as if they do not exist. I note I have a just purchased and am using an Insteon PLM newest model. Is this an Insteon issue or a UD issue? Or is it the PLM? Is there a way to keep the new (serial) one I have and still get the X10 line activity into the eisy event viewers somehow (like using the unused port my serial PLM leaves behind?) I can more or less work around this but sure would be nice to have that data. Chris

Your instructions worked perfectly! Again, thank you for your patience!

Thank you. I know it took some time and energy to craft that response. I will follow it to the letter, and report back. Much appreciated. Ps. I am assuming that the 6 digit code thing is for whatever reason irrelevant?

I have experienced exactly what the OP has. I generate the 6 digit code but NOWHERE does anything, phone etc, does it give md a place to enter it. Yet my phone shows up in the AC.

Thanks!! Time and technology march forward..not without some casualties along the way.

So, what I am hearing is that Gen 1's and useful in their own right for what they do, but just not as device integrated into eisy..is that correct?

I just added my 3 today..they are about 5 years old, undoubtedly 1st generation (how can one tell?). If I have the screens as shown in the initial post, can I find a way to make that work, or am I beating a dead horse here with these "antiquated devices?

Fabulous. Candidly, I spent a lot of hoursabout 7 years ago when setting up my isy. Wiki is great but written by experienced folks who often assume certain understandings as a predicate. Native to them, not so much newbies. This is exactly what I wish there was more of. Bravo!

Thanks!

Reading the replies (for which I think you) I am pondering what might have occurred. I am an experienced user and understand the exlude before include mantra and follow it. However, if you plan to do a factory reset prior to reinstallation, is the order important? i.e. should you exclude prior to a factory reset, or does doing the rest prior to exclusion screw things up somehow? I may have done a factory reset prior to the exclude. I did think that the exclusions all worked prior to trying to reinstall.

There are not 2 sensors involved in this issue, just a single one, which appears to have 2 addresses. I am wondering if what I thought was a successful exclude did not happen and somehow I got the same sensor registered twice? And, if this IS the case, how do exclude only one instance? Thanks for your help!

Well, as I plod along building my new eisy system (I have had ISY for about 6 years and chose not to migrate but start afresh with eisy) I have encountered some frustrations in adding Z wave devices, most notably among the frustrations have been motion sensors. My questions are 1. When you add and then remove a Z wave device, the node that was created is presumably vacated, yet as you continue to add devices the number assigned (node asigned?) continues to go up. How can you reclaim the vacant nodes, or is that a lasting testament to your issues previously? 2. I was dealing with a recalcitrant Aeotec Multisensor, and added and removed it a few times. As I as looking at the mess on the screen this am (all the add on nodes pretty soon clutter things up) it appears that that sensor is listed as ZY-023 and ZY-024. The motion sensors do not track exactly, but when they are both off, motion in front of the known sensor still seems to trigger the "phantom" sensor. Question 2 is - can you actually add a Z wave device more than once? Question 2A is if in fact that is what has happened here how do I get rid of the "phantom" motion sensor (and associated nodes)? Thanks for the continuing assistance fellow UDI'ers. Chris

Thanks. I do have the insteon/x10 module and it transferred over to eisy and I was able to name modules. Thanks for your kind offer. I will let you know as my install progresses.

Replying to my own post. I did find the solution... found the generic X10 device in the insteon listing of devices, and grouped the house code and device code together, not separated... e.g. House Code I unit code 9 should be en.tered as I9. Whew.....

I had X-10 devices on my old ISY, which is now history. Along the way I forgot how to add an X-10 device (addressing problem I think) Can someone help me start putting some X-1o devices on the tree in eisy? Thanks. ps. I did search and look thru materials but just could not find anything, hence this ask. Chris

Terrific info! Thanks!🙂

Again, thanks....Not seeing much about this... are many people separating the physical eisy box and the dongle? Chris