JacquesB

Hi, Instead of using Mutually Exclusive button feature from KeypadLinc, I followed the recommendation given by the ISY and used an On Level of 0 instead. Button B, C and D are members of the 3 scenes. Button B gives an On Level of 0 to C and D when turned On. C and D do the same on their scene. Together, they work great. The problem is, I also want scene B to be controlled by a RemoteLinc. When I do so, the RL turns On button C and D at 100% and I don't see how can I force them to an On Level of 0. Do I have to create a different and dedicated scene for the RL ? That's the work around I'm using for now. So, the question is : how can I set the On Level of a KPL button member of scene when triggered by a RemoteLinc ? Thanks for your help, Jacques

Hello Wwat, I've just hunted few ghost link myself Here are 2 suggestions : 1-Do a "Device Restore" on the lamplinc that turns On when it should not. If it still turns On... 2-Add the lamplinc in that scene and once done, remove it. It it still turns On when it should not... 3-Re-do the No1 If it still turns On when it should not... Well, give us more details about your settings : Are you using programs for triggering that scene ? (I guess you do because it is a morning wake up scene...) If you are, please post a copy of it. Is there another controller than the PLM in that scene ? If there is one, do the "Restore Device" on it too. Hope the first ideas will do the job, JacquesB

Hi mpf541, In the HowTo section, I posted a copy of my own garage door manager. It is very long and complex, but does not have this problem. It will close the door if you leave it open and should the ISY reboot, the door will remain closed. I just did a few manual reboot of my ISY last week for troubleshooting communication issues and the garage door never open as an answer to that. As Michel explained it, the ISY does a "Query" on boot up, and that turns your door checker true, so it starts the relay. My program's complex structure is exactly designed for that kind of situation. You are free to use it and modify it for your needs. Be careful when you open / close your door automatically, JacquesB

Hi, The ELSE-part of a program is very difficult to use, almost impossible. With both a THEN and an ELSE part, a program is always true and always do something. Either the THEN is true OR the ELSE is true, but something must be true. Here, I posted a complete garage door management program : http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?t=2834 It is much longer and more complicated than yours, but it works. A difference is the use of 2 variable for the door status instead of 1. If they are both On or both Off, the door is closed. If they are both On, I left home, so next time I will be coming in. If they are both Off, I'm home and next time, I will be leaving. The program manages the lights depending of the case : turning everything off when leaving, turning the garage and stairs On when coming. When the door is opened, I switch only the first of the 2 variables and the second is adjusted only once the door is closed. This way, the controller knows if the door is opening or closing and does not revert it too soon, like your program does. (Mine did it too at first, but I fixed it My program will try to close the door on its own. Be sure your installation is safe and properly protected before letting the door moves on its own. Should you need help for adjusting my program to your need, don't hesitate and ask for it. Jacques B.

Hi, You are right. I tried it and the newly created program has been set to false. I was sure they were true by default... Sorry about that. So, either you reverse the logic (the variable becomes "Already running" instead of "Ready to Run"), or create a reset program for turning that program True at boot up and whenever you wish. Jacques

Hi, By default, programs are true, not false. As you suggested, it is better to explicit a status than letting it by default. You can easily create a program that will force the status either at boot up of the ISY or once per night. Here, I have one that check the status of a day : every week days, it checks if it is an holyday or vacation. If it is, it does not wake me up. If it is a business day, it turns my lights On smoothly. It would also be easy to reverse the logic : set your flag as "Already running" instead "Ready to run" and reverse the entire logic. It would gives you the same result (if trigger and not already running ; then...) Jacques

Hi, an easy way would be to create a flag and use it as a condition for your programs. First, create an empty program Program name : Ready to run If (No condition) Then Else Next, create a serie of triggers for your action and add your flag as a condition Program name : Trigger 1 If ( Switch_No1 is turned On Or KeypadLinc B is turned On ) And Ready to run is True Then Run program Action_1 Then part Run program Ready to run Else part Else Be sure to turn off the flag only at the very end of this program. Doing it at the beginning would make the program false and stop it. Another option would be to turn off the flag as the first action of the Action_1 program. Finally, define what you wish to do in the Action_1 program before resetting the flag at the end. Program name : Action_1 If (No condition) Then Insteon Set Scene A On Wait 5 minutes Run program Ready to run Then part Else This way, no triggers will start when one is running and because Action programs are only started by those triggers, no action will be taken by the system. Have fun with your programs, Jacques

Hi, Keypad1-G and Keypad2-G are used to determine if you are at home or not. If you are at home and the door opens, then you are leaving : the program will react accordingly. If you are not at home and the door opens, you are coming back, so again, the program will do what you need. The "Back Home" and "Leaving" are the scenes that define what to do when you come back or leave. Here, "Back Home" include the 2 lights I have inside the garage plus the light at the top of the stairs. "Leaving" includes almost everything so they are all turned off when I leave. The program will manage the door properly no matter what opened it. You can open the door with your standard remote control or a fixed button inside the garage, the management program will respond properly because it is triggered by the fact that the door opens. Should you wish to open the garage door from another Insteon control, just have this Insteon device turn On the IOLinc relay. Here, I have a small program doing just that : If Garage Light is turned Fast On or Garage Light is turned Fast Off Then Set Garage Door Relay On Before using this program, be sure your door has all the safety mechanism installed and working properly. Have fun with your system, Jacques

Hi, thanks to all of you for the details you gave me about the problem ant the fix. I will definitely use the power bar trick as a permanent fix for this one : plug a power bar with its on light showing power On / Off. This built-in load is enough for absorbing the leak and effectively cancel the problem. Next is to plug the too small load, here LEDs, in that power bar. I also understand that it can not be fixed without disabling the load sensing feature because that small current is both the detector for the load sense and the culprit for this problem. The last idea would be to have 2 models of OutletLinc, just like there are switches and dimmers. The switch must be used for non-dimmable loads, the Cut-off OutletLinc would be required for loads to low like LEDs. Dimmers and LoadSensor Outlets would also be available. One OutletLinc would offer LoadSense, the other would be low charge friendly. Thanks again, Jacques

Hi Rand, As a matter of fact, your suggestion just makes it worst. Before trying it, the LED panel was flashing, but the OutletLinc did not turn completely On. Now, the OutletLinc turns On completely a short moment ofter I turned it off. I understand that the load sense was disable and I enabled it. I tried to re-disable it, but the OutletLinc now keeps turning fully On. Fortunately, the power bar trick still works and I will use it as a fix. Thanks for the idea, Jacques

Hi, In my kitchen, I installed a serie of OutletLinc that controls 3 different lights. One of them is a panel of LED, the other are fluorescent. The problem is for the LED. Because LEDs use a so low energy, they keep flashing when the OutletLinc is turned off. A very small quantity of energy "leaks" from the OutletLinc and it is enough for turning On a charge as low as LEDs. When I plug a power bar in the controlled Outlet and the LED panel in that bar, it may helps depending of the bar : if the bar has a built-in light, this light is enough for "absorbing" the leak and preventing the flashing. If the bar has no light, the LED keeps flashing. If I turn off the power bar, no matter if it has light or not, it also cuts the leak and prevent the flashing. I tried the LED panel in another "OutletLeak" and it flashes again. Is there any other option than a charge in parallel like the light of a power bar for absorbing that leak ? Is there a way to prevent that leak completely? If not, may be preventing this leak could be an improvement for the next OutletLinc model... Jacques

Hi Richard, unfortunately, nothing in the manual of your router shows that it can do DHCP reservation. That means your router will not guarantee that your ISY's IP will not change, but if you keep your ISY On all the time (as it should), your router should not change its IP address. But even if it does change the IP, you can always found easily where your ISY is by looking at the DHCP client table your router has. The option you were talking about (static route to networks) is something completely different than DHCP reservation and can not be used as a replacement. The only thing you can do that will help is to keep the default DHCP lease time to its maximum (1 day). Should your router behaves badly and keeps moving your ISY all over the place all the time, you may look for a router that will do DHCP reservation (many routers do it). Just go on the Internet before buying it and read the user manual. You will see if the router does DHCP reservation or not. Sorry for the bad news, Jacques

Hi Richard, Unfortunately, I do not understand why the ISY refuses to be a DHCP client... What is sure is that you will have no Internet interaction (mail, DNS, NTP...) while your ISY's default gateway is not the internal IP of your router. May be someone else from UD can help you to turn your IP settings to the appropriate walue... As a TCP/IP requirements, your settings must be : IP Address = 192.168.1.XX where XX is an unused number on your network and between 1 and 254 (1 is probably used by the router...) Netmask = 255.255.255.0 GW = IP of the router, probably 192.168.1.1 DNS = The IP of your ISP's DNS server. They can be configured either by DHCP or manually. I failed to help you achieve that with any of them... Hope someone else will be capable of helping you about that. Jacques

Hi Richard, Here is the manual for your router : http://downloads.linksysbycisco.com/downloads/WRT54GL_V11_UG_C-Web,0.pdf At page 8, you have the details about how to configure your DHCP server. At the end of the manual, you also have the option of seeing the DHCP client table. Take a look at this table. If you see your ISY in the DHCP client table, than you may have a mix of TCP/IP settings : part of it is DHCP, part of it is static. It will not work properly. You must go either fully DHCP or fully static. Be sure that all parameters in the DHCP server are right. DHCP server are not designed to mess up networks. Even without a reservation, they -should- not move a resource from an IP to another without any reason. You can go DHCP even without a reservation and your ISY should remains at the same IP because I'm sure you have less than IP devices in your network For going fully static with the right IP settings, try this : telnet to your ISY controller's actual IP address ; telnet 192.168.1.100 Enter the command CT The controller will ask for all the parameters it needs : IP address, netmask, gateway and DNS server. You should use an IP address outside of the DHCP scope used by the router. By default, any IP like 192.168.1.XXX, with XXX under 100 and not 1 should be good. Your netmask should be 255.255.255.0, again, as a default of your router (of almost every router I should say...). The gateway is the router's internal IP address : by default 192.168.1.1 The DNS server is the same for your ISY than for the router, the one you wrote in your first post. To be sure these new settings are effective, do a reboot of the controller after that, with the command RS For going back to DHCP, do the same procedure but use IP address 0.0.0.0 instead. A thing as simple as TCP/IP settings does not require a reset to factory default. Good luck with this, Jacques

Hi Richard, may be would it be better not to fix these parameters manually, but over DHCP. This is how I work here. Your router, as most routers, should be capable of acting as a DHCP server. In your router settings, create a DHCP entry for your controller and put back your ISY in its default mode : DHCP client instead of static IP. Also be sure the DHCP in your router sets all parameters properly : DNS Server, Default GW, etc. May be the setting is overwritten by this right now : you try to set something that is set to a different value by the DHCP client. Should you need more help about that, simply post your progress. Good luck, Jacques

Hi, the default GW in the ISY controller must be the internal IP address of your router. Without that, the ISY controller can not do anything at all over the Internet. Your router has an IP address of 192.168.1.Z (probably 192.168.1.1) and that is the IP address you must use as the default GW in the ISY. This is one problem for sure. If you have more, just update your post with the new errors messages and settings... Have fun, Jacques

Hi, As for what I know, programs are not evaluated unless you call them explicitly by their IF part or at the very moment a trigger happens. The schedule "From Sunset to 10:35PM" has 2 triggers : Sunset and 10:35. If the program becomes "accessible" between these 2 triggers, it will be available for running, but will not start on its own before its own triggers. A fix would be to have a program like : If "Control Occupied On/Off APL" is switched On Then Run program "Clock trigger" ( IF ) Else With that, every time you turn your "Occupied" flag On, the clock is re-evaluated. If it is true, its Then part will run. If it is not, nothing will happen because you have no Else part. Jacques

Hi, here is a way for choosing different On Level for a light or a scene, directly from the dimmer and without flickering. Components included : One ISY controller 2 Dimmers in a double gang box in the bathroom. 1st is the light over the mirror 2nd is the light on the ceiling Both of them are responder in a scene : Main Bathroom Each one is usable as a standard dimmer for its own load. Next program is a quick fix for turning both light off when only one is On and the user try to turn off the wrong dimmer, or when any dimmer is switched fast-off : If ( Status 'Dimmer 1' is not Off And Status 'Dimmer 2' is Off And Control 'Dimmer 2' is switched Off ) Or ( Status 'Dimmer 2' is not Off And Status 'Dimmer 1' is Off And Control 'Dimmer 1' is switched Off ) Or Control 'Dimmer 1' is switched Fast Off Or Control 'Dimmer 2' is switched Fast Off Then Set Scene 'Main Bathroom' Fast Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') By using the "Not Off", the program works even when the lights are dimmed. Now, should I wish to have 3 different settings for the scene : Both 100% Dimmer 1 at 70% and Dimmer 2 at 60% Both at 40% It is possible to re-use the fast On and regular Off controls for that : If Status 'Dimmer 1' is Off And Status 'Dimmer 2' is Off And Control 'Dimmer 1' is switched Off Then Set 'Dimmer 1' 40% Set 'Dimmer 2' 40% Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') If Status 'Dimmer 1' is Off And Status 'Dimmer 2' is Off And Control 'Dimmer 2' is switched Off Then Set 'Dimmer 1' 70% Set 'Dimmer 2' 60% Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') If Control 'Dimmer 1' is switched Fast On Or Control 'Dimmer 2' is switched Fast On Then Set Scene 'Main Bathroom' Fast On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') The Fast-On can be used as a trigger without flickering because the On Level associated with the hidden function is also 100%. The Off control is working normally because the program does not make it a trigger unless both lights are already off. By using the Off as a trigger for turning lights On, these lights will not jump to 100% before going back down. It would even be possible to re-use one or both of the Fast-Off for setting even more "hidden" lights level. The functions are hidden and not very intuitive because the Off control produces a "Turn On" action. Still, it should be fine for every one. For those who can just re-use the dimmer in its "normal" way, it works fine. For the other who know about the hidden functions, they can use it and produce just more flexible combinations, like not turning the light 100% when using the bathroom at night. The only thing is, because the reactions are taken by the controller instead of the dimmer, there is a very small delay between the action and the reaction, as opposed to say a Keypadlinc button that would set the scene at the appropriate level instantly. Have fun hiding more functions in your network, Jacques

Hi, One should not try to have the door closed automatically if their is no security mechanism in place. A detector placed too low is not effective, so the door is not protected. Mine is placed properly and I tested it many times, deliberately trying to close my door while my car was still under it. The controller tries 3 times for different reasons : -Maybe I did not got out of the garage as soon as I usually do and my car itself still block the way. -The obstacle itself can have move (an animal, something moved by the wind, ...) -A person may have been present and cleared the way since ... Of course, the obstacle can still be in place and its the reason I do not try forever. But should something blocks the door, whatever that is, it is still safe because the door will not close on it. Jacques

Hi, It took me 3 days and hundreds of door opening / closing, but I finally did it. I finally removed all the races between the programs and the status conflicts... Now, my garage door is managed properly by the program (or programs) next here. My garage door is equipped with a safety mechanism that re-open the door if an obstacle goes under it. Be sure yours have some kind of protection before trying to adapt this program for your needs. I offer this without any warranty : use it at your own risk. Here is my complete garage door management program. It does : 1-Accept Opening / Closing by Insteon Control 2-Accept Opening / Closing by external control (standard remote ; manual switch) 3-Detect if you are coming in or going out 4-Verify the door was closed properly 5-Notify if it was not and try to close it automatically 6-In case of error, retry 3 times with increasing delay between them 7-Confirm the proper closing of the door or Alert if the door can not be closed. My installation is based on : An ISY99i controller, firmware 2.7.0 An IOLinc 2450 v.33 A contact configured as "On" when the door is open and "Off" when the door is closed. A-Create a master folder for everything : Garage Door Management B-In the master folder, create 10 sub folders : DS-0 - Already Closed DS-1 - Opening DS-2 - Is Closed Manually DS-3 - Auto-Close DS-4 - Failure DS-5 - Second Try DS-6 - Third Try DS-7 - Can Not Close DS-8 - Closed OK Variables C-The program uses 11 variables. 2 are KeypadLinc buttons and 9 are programs. The programs used as variables are all saved in the "Variables" folder and are defined as : Var – Door State 0 If Status 'Garage Door - Sensor' is Off Then Wait 2 seconds Run Program 'DS 0 Reset all Door states' (If) Run Program 'LED Management - Came in' (If) Run Program 'LED Management - Going out' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Var – Door State 1 If Control 'Garage Door - Sensor' is switched On Then Wait 2 seconds Run Program 'DS 1 Coming In' (If) Run Program 'DS 1 Going Out' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Var – Door State 2 If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Wait 2 seconds Run Program 'DS 2 Door check' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Var – Door State 3 If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Wait 2 seconds Run Program 'DS 3 Close the door' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Var – Door State 4 If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Wait 2 seconds Run Program 'DS 4 Door problem' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Var – Door State 5 If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Wait 2 seconds Run Program 'DS 5 Door emergency' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Var – Door State 6 If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Wait 2 seconds Run Program 'DS 6 Door Last try' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Var – Door State 7 If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Wait 2 seconds Run Program 'DS 7 Door Cant Close' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Var – Door State 8 If Control 'Garage Door - Sensor' is switched Off Then Wait 2 seconds Run Program 'DS 8 Door Closed OK' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') D-Add his own variable as a condition to each folder (No conditions on the master and the Variables) Ex : Folder Conditions for 'DS-0 - Already Closed' If Program 'Var - Door state 0' is True Then Allow the programs in this folder to run. Note : This prevents many races between programs and conflicts between different status. E-Create a program in the master folder for resetting the Garage Door's relay automatically Reset the relay If Status 'Garage Door - Relay' is On Then Wait 3 seconds Set 'Garage Door - Relay' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') F-Next are the 3 programs in the DS-0 Folder DS 0 Reset all Door states If Program 'Var - Door state 2' is True Or Program 'Var - Door state 3' is True Or Program 'Var - Door state 4' is True Or Program 'Var - Door state 5' is True Or Program 'Var - Door state 6' is True Or Program 'Var - Door state 7' is True Or Program 'Var - Door state 8' is True Then Run Program 'Var - Door state 1' (Else Path) Run Program 'Var - Door state 2' (Else Path) Run Program 'Var - Door state 3' (Else Path) Run Program 'Var - Door state 4' (Else Path) Run Program 'Var - Door state 5' (Else Path) Run Program 'Var - Door state 6' (Else Path) Run Program 'Var - Door state 7' (Else Path) Run Program 'Var - Door state 8' (Else Path) Run Program 'LED Management - Came in' (If) Run Program 'LED Management - Going out' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Note : Do not include State 1 in the IF or it will become true as soon as the door opens and that would stop everything. LED Management - Came in If Status 'Keypad 1 - G' is On And Status 'Keypad 2 - G' is Off And Program 'Var - Door state 1' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 2' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 3' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 4' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 5' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 6' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 7' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 8' is False Then Set Scene 'Keypad 1 - G' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') LED Management - Going out If Status 'Keypad 1 - G' is Off And Status 'Keypad 2 - G' is On And Program 'Var - Door state 1' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 2' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 3' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 4' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 5' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 6' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 7' is False And Program 'Var - Door state 8' is False Then Set Scene 'Keypad 1 - G' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Note : The status LEDs tell if you were in (Both Off) or out (Both On). Do not change their status back to a stable state (Both On or Off) before closing the door or the program will get confused between the 2 possibility. You will need 2 scenes, one containing each button, for setting them On and Off. Note 2 : We need 2 variables because should we have only 1, the program that test it and invert it would become an infinite loop reacting to the change it just created. G-Next programs are in DS-1 folder DS 1 Coming In If Status 'Keypad 1 - G' is On Then Set Scene 'Back Home' On Set Scene 'Keypad 2 - G' Off Wait 30 seconds Run Program 'Var - Door state 2' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') DS 1 Going Out If Status 'Keypad 1 - G' is Off Then Set Scene 'Keypad 2 - G' On Set Scene 'Leaving' Off Wait 30 seconds Set 'Garage Light' Off Run Program 'Var - Door state 2' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') H-Other folders contain only 1 program each. They are : DS 2 Door check If Program 'Var - Door state 0' is False Then Run Program 'Var - Door state 1' (Else Path) Send Notification to All Run Program 'Var - Door state 3' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') DS 3 Close the door If Program 'Var - Door state 0' is False Then Run Program 'Var - Door state 2' (Else Path) Set 'Garage Door - Relay' On Wait 30 seconds Run Program 'Var - Door state 4' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') DS 4 Door problem If Program 'Var - Door state 0' is False Then Run Program 'Var - Door state 3' (Else Path) Send Notification to All Set 'Garage Door - Relay' On Wait 1 minute Run Program 'Var - Door state 5' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') DS 5 Door emergency If Program 'Var - Door state 0' is False Then Run Program 'Var - Door state 4' (Else Path) Set 'Garage Door - Relay' On Wait 3 minutes Run Program 'Var - Door state 6' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') DS 6 Door Last try If Program 'Var - Door state 0' is False Then Run Program 'Var - Door state 5' (Else Path) Set 'Garage Door - Relay' On Wait 20 seconds Run Program 'Var - Door state 7' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') DS 7 Door Cant Close If Program 'Var - Door state 0' is False Then Send Notification to All Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') DS 8 Door Closed OK If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Send Notification to All Run Program 'Var - Door state 0' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') You can add any other Insteon controller for opening the garage door and the door will be managed automatically by the program. If you wish to have an Insteon controller that opens the garage door AND keeps it open, just add a condition on the master folder and configure your control for setting this condition to a False state. Be sure the state is set back to True by the control that will manually close the door after that. The program structure used here can be re-used for creating any other sequential processing with the event-based interface of the ISY. Also, it can surely be optimized in many ways : reducing the number of programs / of calls / of commands or by moving / removing "Waits". I left it as it is not only because I'm tired of the debug I just did, but also because I think it is easier to follow the program in its sequential logic than in the event-base logic of the controller. Have fun with your installation, Jacques

Hi, Thanks for the thread you sent me to. That is EXACTLY the description of my problem. The only difference is that I use Kaspersky AV and not IS, but for sure the culprit is the same. Let me try over HTTPS first. I should be able to do my own debug with that... If it fails with the HTTPS and / or disabling Kaspersky, I will send you credentials to the e-mail address you just gave me. You can connect my ISY over Checkpoint VPN, basic port forwarding, SSH tunneling or interactive session of Remote Desktop. Have any preference ? Thanks for your help, Jacques

I forgot to mention : No firewall on the host (even not Windows Firewall) Both the host and the controller are in the same network segment behing a CheckPoint Fw-1 appliance. The antivirus on the host is Kaspersky AV 2009. Jacques

Hi, The cache cleaning did not fixed the problem. I did a Java Update at the same time and it did not helped either. The applet from your website fixes half of the problem : the ramp rate are now correct, but the On level are not. -Few more test with my own things ; always wrong at the start of the console, including reboots of the controller which trigger the default "QueryAll" program- I opened the applet from your site first : every thing was wrong. I queried manually all my devices once for setting the right values. I exited and reloaded the applet from your site. All ramp rate were still good, but all On level were down to 0. The ISY is on the latest stable firmware : 2.7.0 The browser is FireFox, 3.0.8 The Java engine is 1.6.0_13 Any other idea ? Thanks for your help, Jacques

Hi, thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, the -2 is not a big problem here. On more than 5500 lines, I have only 5 of them, and they are all before I moved the access point to a plug closer to the panel. I also added more Insteon devices after these, so the network came more reliable. All query at 3:00 AM are good and the complete scan takes less than a minute (all levels were 0 because, well, everything was off). Also, the problem can not be time related : First time I open the admin console, all ramp rates and on level are reset. I query all of them manually and they all come back right. I close the admin console and re-open it within a minute and all settings are back wrong. I would also be surprised should it be the PLM because the basic web pages from the ISY return the proper settings all the time. Only the admin console gets them wrong. For me, it looks more and more a problem / bug with the applet itself. Any other idea ? Jacques

Right! I missed the year The poll is still open and at the top list of the forum. May be should it be removed ? Jacques