Illusion Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 Okay, new guy here. First let me say that I have read about 1500 posts. In one way or another you have already kinda answered these questions, but I think I need a direct answer. (I fully intend on reading every single post, but I am itching to really get started with my isy) 1. In release 2.6 (ISY-26) there is no way to look at a link table for a device, right? I have a Mac and have tried using Indigo with a PLC to import the link tables, but that has not been going too well for me. I think it corrupts them when ever I do that. Indigo tries to add the PLC to the link database, and I loose all my scene fade times. I end up doing a device restore from the isy to correct it. Plus, I know that the link table is incomplete, as Indigo does not show the links from the PLC to the device. 2. This brings me to my next question. How best to start fresh? I had Indigo first, and set up all kinds of scenes and timers. Then I put most of the devices in the isy using the spider and keep links. Well, I am not real sure what links are in there. I know that there are links between the devices and the PLC because Indigo can show me the traffic in its live log window. I am worried that I have created a mess and I think the best thing to do is just start fresh with the isy and abandoned Indigo. I will sorely miss having a live log of all activity. That said, I am a little confused. How do I go about this. Do I need to factory reset the devices, or do I just remove them from the isy and re-add them using option 1 and do not spider the network, repeating this for each device? I have read mention of both. What will really clean the link tables out for me? 3. On a side note: I have read about programing a remotelinc by putting it into programming mode using bright/dim or maybe it was all on/all off. When I programmed my RTL using Indigo I just woke it up by hitting any button. Worked great. Do we need to enter programming mode for isy to set it up?
Michel Kohanim Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Illusion, Welcome! Please see my comments below. With kind regards, Michel Okay, new guy here. First let me say that I have read about 1500 posts. In one way or another you have already kinda answered these questions, but I think I need a direct answer. (I fully intend on reading every single post, but I am itching to really get started with my isy) You have a formidable task at hand but I do not think it would be necessary. 1. In release 2.6 (ISY-26) there is no way to look at a link table for a device, right? I have a Mac and have tried using Indigo with a PLC to import the link tables, but that has not been going too well for me. I think it corrupts them when ever I do that. Indigo tries to add the PLC to the link database, and I loose all my scene fade times. I end up doing a device restore from the isy to correct it. Plus, I know that the link table is incomplete, as Indigo does not show the links from the PLC to the device. ISY was designed to eliminate the need for the user to know anything about links/tables etc. This said, however, you can use ISY's shell (either telnet or tty using serial cable) and issue SCAN which gives you the capability of reading PLM links, device links, etc. 2. This brings me to my next question. How best to start fresh? I had Indigo first, and set up all kinds of scenes and timers. Then I put most of the devices in the isy using the spider and keep links. Well, I am not real sure what links are in there. I know that there are links between the devices and the PLC because Indigo can show me the traffic in its live log window. I am worried that I have created a mess and I think the best thing to do is just start fresh with the isy and abandoned Indigo. I will sorely miss having a live log of all activity. That said, I am a little confused. How do I go about this. Do I need to factory reset the devices, or do I just remove them from the isy and re-add them using option 1 and do not spider the network, repeating this for each device? I have read mention of both. What will really clean the link tables out for me? 1. telnet to ISY and issue FR (for factory reset) 2. start from one section of the house at a time 3. it's always best to factory reset the devices but it's not necessary (unless you have X10 codes); this includes the PLM 4. link them to ISY using option 1 3. On a side note: I have read about programing a remotelinc by putting it into programming mode using bright/dim or maybe it was all on/all off. When I programmed my RTL using Indigo I just woke it up by hitting any button. Worked great. Do we need to enter programming mode for isy to set it up? We do know about that feature but that's not SmartLab's official procedure for programming a RemoteLinc. We are simply promoting the official procedure!
Illusion Posted March 31, 2008 Author Posted March 31, 2008 What about the PLM? The existing links for scenes and devices are held within the PLM right? Does Factory Reseting the ISY somehow clear the links out of the PLM?
Michel Kohanim Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Hi Illusion, You are 100% correct and apologies for the omission. I am going to edit the post. Thanks and with kind regards, Michel What about the PLM? The existing links for scenes and devices are held within the PLM right? Does Factory Reseting the ISY somehow clear the links out of the PLM?
Illusion Posted March 31, 2008 Author Posted March 31, 2008 So I have added back many a device, but not started setting up scenes yet. Should I stop and Factory Reset the PLM? Would this be the clean thing to do? I am not sure I know how to reset a PLM, looking for directions now.
Michel Kohanim Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Illusion, Please do the following before adding your scenes: 1. Reset your PLM (just to be in the safe side) 2. File->Restore Devices With kind regards, Michel So I have added back many a device, but not started setting up scenes yet. Should I stop and Factory Reset the PLM? Would this be the clean thing to do? I am not sure I know how to reset a PLM, looking for directions now.
Illusion Posted March 31, 2008 Author Posted March 31, 2008 Michel, I am a little confused. File->Restore Modem seems like the thing to do here, no? If I Restore Devices, does it also restore their links in the PLM? Which I assume I am wiping out by doing a factory reset on the PLM? I am assuming that by your ommision of starting over again, that I do not need to redo all my adding insteon devices into the ISY again. Thanks for your time.
Michel Kohanim Posted March 31, 2008 Posted March 31, 2008 Illusion, File->Restore Devices restores the PLM links as well. And, you are correct: you do not have to redo everything that you have already done. We are simply ensuring that what you have in ISY is equal to what's out there in the devices. With kind regards, Michel Michel, I am a little confused. File->Restore Modem seems like the thing to do here, no? If I Restore Devices, does it also restore their links in the PLM? Which I assume I am wiping out by doing a factory reset on the PLM? I am assuming that by your ommision of starting over again, that I do not need to redo all my adding insteon devices into the ISY again. Thanks for your time.
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