Shut off all lights when I turn on a scene (can't find post)

[andrew77]

When I push B on my KPL, everything's fine.

When I push C the B scene (and LED) is still on.

I read somewhere in the forum how to kill the other lights(and LEDs) when you push a KPL scene but can't find it again.

 

All I found was this but I don't understand the Mutually Exclusive Buttons thing.

 

http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?t=25

 

Is this what I'm looking for?

 

Drew

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi Drew,

 

That's precisely what you are looking for. You can also find information on this topic in our Wiki: http://www.universal-devices.com/mwiki .

 

With kind regards,

Michel

 

When I push B on my KPL, everything's fine.

When I push C the B scene (and LED) is still on.

I read somewhere in the forum how to kill the other lights(and LEDs) when you push a KPL scene but can't find it again.

 

All I found was this but I don't understand the Mutually Exclusive Buttons thing.

 

http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?t=25

 

Is this what I'm looking for?

 

Drew

[andrew77]

So if I drag and drop KPL button B scene and KPL button C scene into the same group, Scene B (and it's LED) will shut off when I activate KPL scene C?

 

Drew

[Michel Kohanim]

Drew,

 

Yes. But you have to be very careful if you have other controllers in the same scene that control B and C: Mutex Groups/Buttons work at a local level only so if you have other controllers in the scene that can turn on/off B and C then Mutex will be ineffective.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

So if I drag and drop KPL button B scene and KPL button C scene into the same group, Scene B (and it's LED) will shut off when I activate KPL scene C?

 

Drew

[andrew77]

I have my remotelinc controlling these scenes as well.

So it will work if I use only the KPL buttons but will act the way it does now if I trigger the scenes with the Remlinc.

I can't remember if the Remlinc has MUTex buttons as well. Is it just the KPLs?

 

By the way, I'm finally seeing all the cool stuff I can do with the ISY.

 

Having a great time.

 

Drew

 

P.S. What does ISY stand for? It's probably obvious and I'm not seeing it.

[Michel Kohanim]

Hello Drew,

 

Yes, precisely. If you have an RL in the same scene, your Mutex buttons will NOT work (or behave the way you want them to).

 

I am so very glad you are starting to have fun!

 

ISY stands for Intelligent System.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

I have my remotelinc controlling these scenes as well.

So it will work if I use only the KPL buttons but will act the way it does now if I trigger the scenes with the Remlinc.

I can't remember if the Remlinc has MUTex buttons as well. Is it just the KPLs?

 

By the way, I'm finally seeing all the cool stuff I can do with the ISY.

 

Having a great time.

 

Drew

 

P.S. What does ISY stand for? It's probably obvious and I'm not seeing it.

[andrew77]

I'm confused a bit by what the mutually exclusive buttons can do

The LEDS turn off when I push other buttons, yes, but

For example,

When I push the B KPL it turns on lights 1 2 3 4 5

When I push the C KPL it changes lights 1 2 3 (common to both scenes) but lights 4 and 5 are still on.

Even though I'm triggering the scenes with the KPL and not the RL, does the fact that having the RL in the scene mess up the way the Mutex buttons work? Or did you mean if I trigger the scene with the RL it won't let the LEDs shut off because the RL can't be Mutex?

 

Drew

[Sub-Routine]

I'm confused a bit by what the mutually exclusive buttons can do

The LEDS turn off when I push other buttons, yes, but

For example,

When I push the B KPL it turns on lights 1 2 3 4 5

When I push the C KPL it changes lights 1 2 3 (common to both scenes) but lights 4 and 5 are still on.

Even though I'm triggering the scenes with the KPL and not the RL, does the fact that having the RL in the scene mess up the way the Mutex buttons work? Or did you mean if I trigger the scene with the RL it won't let the LEDs shut off because the RL can't be Mutex?

 

Drew

 

You will have to include lights 4 and 5 in the scene button C calls.

 

Controlling the state of a button on a keypad does not control any devices linked to it.

 

Rand

[andrew77]

Would I make the scene on button C have lights 1 2 3 on their new setting and lights 4 and 5 off (or at 0%)

 

Drew

 

As an aside how do I "quote" on this forum?

 

Drew

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi Drew,

 

Yes.

 

To quote, simply use the Quote button when replying to posts.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

 

Would I make the scene on button C have lights 1 2 3 on their new setting and lights 4 and 5 off (or at 0%)

 

Drew

 

As an aside how do I "quote" on this forum?

 

Drew

[andrew77]

I apologize if this post becomes lengthy.

I s this the best way to achieve this?

I've put KPL buttons b c and e in a mutex group

 

buttons b setting are

bathroom 30%

Big room 30%

Big Room Kpl off

Dining Room 30%

Hall KPL 30%

Kitchen 30%

 

ButtonC is

Bath off

Big Room 45

Big Room KPL off

Dining 30

Hall off

Kitchen 30

 

and Button E is

Bath 30

Big Room 60

Big Room KPL 30

Dining 30

Hall 30

Kitchen 30

 

I've done this so that when I press any KPL button (b c or e) lights that I don't want on shut off automatically. and others chage to their different percentage.

 

Again, my question is if there's a shorter or more streamlined way of getting the same effect.

 

Drew

[Sub-Routine]

Yes, that's how you do it!

 

I have avoided the mutually exclusive buttons and instead I use non-toggle on. By doing this the scene can not be turned off. There are a few lights I leave on, in a dimmed state, all the time.

 

Rand

[andrew77]

Sweet. I think I'm actually getting it.

 

drew