andrew77 Posted April 6, 2008 Posted April 6, 2008 When I push B on my KPL, everything's fine. When I push C the B scene (and LED) is still on. I read somewhere in the forum how to kill the other lights(and LEDs) when you push a KPL scene but can't find it again. All I found was this but I don't understand the Mutually Exclusive Buttons thing. http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?t=25 Is this what I'm looking for? Drew
Michel Kohanim Posted April 6, 2008 Posted April 6, 2008 Hi Drew, That's precisely what you are looking for. You can also find information on this topic in our Wiki: http://www.universal-devices.com/mwiki . With kind regards, Michel When I push B on my KPL, everything's fine.When I push C the B scene (and LED) is still on. I read somewhere in the forum how to kill the other lights(and LEDs) when you push a KPL scene but can't find it again. All I found was this but I don't understand the Mutually Exclusive Buttons thing. http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?t=25 Is this what I'm looking for? Drew
andrew77 Posted April 6, 2008 Author Posted April 6, 2008 So if I drag and drop KPL button B scene and KPL button C scene into the same group, Scene B (and it's LED) will shut off when I activate KPL scene C? Drew
Michel Kohanim Posted April 6, 2008 Posted April 6, 2008 Drew, Yes. But you have to be very careful if you have other controllers in the same scene that control B and C: Mutex Groups/Buttons work at a local level only so if you have other controllers in the scene that can turn on/off B and C then Mutex will be ineffective. With kind regards, Michel So if I drag and drop KPL button B scene and KPL button C scene into the same group, Scene B (and it's LED) will shut off when I activate KPL scene C? Drew
andrew77 Posted April 6, 2008 Author Posted April 6, 2008 I have my remotelinc controlling these scenes as well. So it will work if I use only the KPL buttons but will act the way it does now if I trigger the scenes with the Remlinc. I can't remember if the Remlinc has MUTex buttons as well. Is it just the KPLs? By the way, I'm finally seeing all the cool stuff I can do with the ISY. Having a great time. Drew P.S. What does ISY stand for? It's probably obvious and I'm not seeing it.
Michel Kohanim Posted April 6, 2008 Posted April 6, 2008 Hello Drew, Yes, precisely. If you have an RL in the same scene, your Mutex buttons will NOT work (or behave the way you want them to). I am so very glad you are starting to have fun! ISY stands for Intelligent System. With kind regards, Michel I have my remotelinc controlling these scenes as well.So it will work if I use only the KPL buttons but will act the way it does now if I trigger the scenes with the Remlinc. I can't remember if the Remlinc has MUTex buttons as well. Is it just the KPLs? By the way, I'm finally seeing all the cool stuff I can do with the ISY. Having a great time. Drew P.S. What does ISY stand for? It's probably obvious and I'm not seeing it.
andrew77 Posted April 7, 2008 Author Posted April 7, 2008 I'm confused a bit by what the mutually exclusive buttons can do The LEDS turn off when I push other buttons, yes, but For example, When I push the B KPL it turns on lights 1 2 3 4 5 When I push the C KPL it changes lights 1 2 3 (common to both scenes) but lights 4 and 5 are still on. Even though I'm triggering the scenes with the KPL and not the RL, does the fact that having the RL in the scene mess up the way the Mutex buttons work? Or did you mean if I trigger the scene with the RL it won't let the LEDs shut off because the RL can't be Mutex? Drew
Sub-Routine Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 I'm confused a bit by what the mutually exclusive buttons can doThe LEDS turn off when I push other buttons, yes, but For example, When I push the B KPL it turns on lights 1 2 3 4 5 When I push the C KPL it changes lights 1 2 3 (common to both scenes) but lights 4 and 5 are still on. Even though I'm triggering the scenes with the KPL and not the RL, does the fact that having the RL in the scene mess up the way the Mutex buttons work? Or did you mean if I trigger the scene with the RL it won't let the LEDs shut off because the RL can't be Mutex? Drew You will have to include lights 4 and 5 in the scene button C calls. Controlling the state of a button on a keypad does not control any devices linked to it. Rand
andrew77 Posted April 7, 2008 Author Posted April 7, 2008 Would I make the scene on button C have lights 1 2 3 on their new setting and lights 4 and 5 off (or at 0%) Drew As an aside how do I "quote" on this forum? Drew
Michel Kohanim Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 Hi Drew, Yes. To quote, simply use the Quote button when replying to posts. With kind regards, Michel Would I make the scene on button C have lights 1 2 3 on their new setting and lights 4 and 5 off (or at 0%) Drew As an aside how do I "quote" on this forum? Drew
andrew77 Posted April 8, 2008 Author Posted April 8, 2008 I apologize if this post becomes lengthy. I s this the best way to achieve this? I've put KPL buttons b c and e in a mutex group buttons b setting are bathroom 30% Big room 30% Big Room Kpl off Dining Room 30% Hall KPL 30% Kitchen 30% ButtonC is Bath off Big Room 45 Big Room KPL off Dining 30 Hall off Kitchen 30 and Button E is Bath 30 Big Room 60 Big Room KPL 30 Dining 30 Hall 30 Kitchen 30 I've done this so that when I press any KPL button (b c or e) lights that I don't want on shut off automatically. and others chage to their different percentage. Again, my question is if there's a shorter or more streamlined way of getting the same effect. Drew
Sub-Routine Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Yes, that's how you do it! I have avoided the mutually exclusive buttons and instead I use non-toggle on. By doing this the scene can not be turned off. There are a few lights I leave on, in a dimmed state, all the time. Rand
andrew77 Posted April 8, 2008 Author Posted April 8, 2008 Sweet. I think I'm actually getting it. drew
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