icerabbit Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Consider a basement with 3 sections: A B C. A = 1x 2477S (BAS1 switch ) B = 2x 2477S in 3-way (BAS2 3WAY1 and BAS2 3WAY2) with Scene BAS2 3WAY (both controller) C= 1x 2477S (BAS3 switch) 99% of the time one enters the basement in the middle section, at BAS2 3WAY1 interior door. 1% of the time BAS2 3WAY2 is used at the exterior door. As needed a person will flip on zone A or C to get something. What I'd like is when you leave the basement, that you don't have to go back to turn A and/or C OFF, in other words that when OFF is pressed on the 3-way circuit; that it turns lights off for the entire basement. I thought I could add all devices to a scene called BASEMENT LIGHTS and then get a program setup to accomplish that. But, the ISY complained that the zone B switches are already already part of another scene. And, now I'm feeling lost. I've looked at the manual, the video, ... this morning and I thought the idea would work, but I'm missing a couple details or somewhere, I think ... Thank you for your help
oberkc Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 I thought I could add all devices to a scene called BASEMENT LIGHTS and then get a program setup to accomplish that. But, the ISY complained that the zone B switches are already already part of another scene. And, now I'm feeling lost. Devices can be part of many scenes, but controller only of one. The only reason that I can think that the ISY would complain is that you are trying to add them as a controller. If you have not yet tried, attempt to add them to the new BASEMENT LIGHTS scene as a responder.
icerabbit Posted April 4, 2013 Author Posted April 4, 2013 Yes, it complained that I tried to have BAS2 3way1 and BAS2 3way2 as a controller for scene BASEMENT LIGHTS. Now, when I, as you suggest, create the scene BASEMENT LIGHTS, all devices are accepted as responders. Which I guess means that I can only set all three zones to off with the ISY web interface. Not when I press OFF on BAS 3way1. So, in order to set the scene BASEMENT LIGHTS to OFF at the door, I would need a second switch or a multi-button switch instead of a 2477S. ( Recognizing that 2477s, is actually only one single button for on/off; and can't be linked/programmed with a more extensive off routine, so to speak)
G W Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 I have used keypads in cases like this. My house is full of keypads for this very reason.
Xathros Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 How about this: Program: BasementAandCoff If Control BAS2 3WAY1 is Switched Off or Control BAS2 3WAY2 is Switched Off Then Set Scene BAS1 Off Set Scene BAS3 Off Or replace the last two with your whole basement scene: Set Scene BasementAll Off But to me, that scene is unnecessary and is just wasting links. -Xathros
oberkc Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 Which I guess means that I can only set all three zones to off with the ISY web interface. Not when I press OFF on BAS 3way1. Correct, this would only respond to a program. So, in order to set the scene BASEMENT LIGHTS to OFF at the door, I would need a second switch or a multi-button switch instead of a 2477S. Not necessarily. Like garyfunk, I have lots of keypads for this purpose. But for you, simply create a program to react to "control off" from your BAS 3way1 switch. The program would simply turn off the BASEMENT LIGHTS scene. Alternatively, you could create the program to respond to FASTOFF. Doing so would give one the option to only turn off section B (OFF) or all three sections (FAST OFF). The downside is that this might not be sufficiently intuitive for those in your house technologically challenged.
icerabbit Posted April 4, 2013 Author Posted April 4, 2013 A program running in the background could work too, as Xanthros suggests. No need for a button to turn the other two off. Clever thinking. I'm still a novice, so I had to do a scene Which seemed the way to go to turn 3 things on/off at once. Not a priority for KeypadLinc there. There's only 3 things there and there's no three button KL. I'm already happy I can turn off the lights remotely Thanks for the clarification.
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