JSP0511 Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Hello all, I seem to be having an issue with my Garagelinc that I had for a brief moment when I first installed the unit a year ago and has since returned. When I trigger the garage to open, the Garagelinc status moves to "On" but no longer reverts back to "Off" after 20ms (current setting). I have also had it set to 1 second but that did not seem to help. I have "Momentary A" selected as well and have also tried all momentary settings with no change. I normally wouldn't care but I am installing an 8 button KPL upstairs and would like to be able to open and close the garage from one of the buttons. If the Garagelinc never reverts to "Off", I'm not sure how easy it will be to correctly use the KPL. I'm thinking a unit reset may be in order but wanted to run it by you to see fi this is an issue that has been seen before. Thank you, Jerry
Xathros Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Hello all, I seem to be having an issue with my Garagelinc that I had for a brief moment when I first installed the unit a year ago and has since returned. When I trigger the garage to open, the Garagelinc status moves to "On" but no longer reverts back to "Off" after 20ms (current setting). I have also had it set to 1 second but that did not seem to help. I have "Momentary A" selected as well and have also tried all momentary settings with no change. I normally wouldn't care but I am installing an 8 button KPL upstairs and would like to be able to open and close the garage from one of the buttons. If the Garagelinc never reverts to "Off", I'm not sure how easy it will be to correctly use the KPL. I'm thinking a unit reset may be in order but wanted to run it by you to see fi this is an issue that has been seen before. Thank you, Jerry Hi Jerry- I believe this is the normal behavior of th IOLinc module. In momentary mode, the ISY turns the relay on (and sets the status as On) then the IOLink turns the relay off after the preset timeout period. Since the relay node of the IOLinc is a responder only, no message is sent out to update the ISY's status. This is really not an issue as it doesn't affect the operation of the IOLinc. If you prefer to see the relay node as Off, as do I, you can add a "Wait 5 seconds" after you set the relay On and set it back off (which will only update the status as reflected by the ISY). -Xathros
JSP0511 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Posted July 16, 2013 Xathros, Are you saying that I should set up a program that changes the status of the IOLinc to "Off" after it sees that it's been "On" for 5 second? Not sure I understand completely.
LeeG Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 I would add only one point to the discussion a few posts back. If you want the I/O Linc Relay to respond to both On and Off commands from the KPL button (which is independent of the Relay Status) use Momentary B mode. Momentary A mode will respond to either an On command only or an Off command only, but not both. Again this does not matter if the Relay has an ISY Status of On or Off.
JSP0511 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Posted July 16, 2013 I would add only one point to the discussion a few posts back. If you want the I/O Linc Relay to respond to both On and Off commands from the KPL button (which is independent of the Relay Status) use Momentary B mode. Momentary A mode will respond to either an On command only or an Off command only, but not both. Again this does not matter if the Relay has an ISY Status of On or Off. That would work for me. In my Mobilinc Pro, I have the IoLinc as a favorite. When it is off, if I press it once it turns on and opens the garage. Once it's in the "on" position. I have to turn it off then back on to close the garage. Any thoughts there?
LeeG Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 Is the I/O Linc Relay being controlled directly from MobiLinc or is a Scene with the Relay as a Responder being controlled? If a Scene is used the problem is Momentary B mode is not being used. If controlling the Relay directly I saw a post from MobiLinc that said there is a list of commands that apply. All but the On command can be deleted so only On commands are issued. Direct On command always turns the Relay On in any of the Momentary modes. It is Scene commands that are sensitive to which Momentary mode is being used.
JSP0511 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Posted July 16, 2013 Is the I/O Linc Relay being controlled directly from MobiLinc or is a Scene with the Relay as a Responder being controlled? If a Scene is used the problem is Momentary B mode is not being used. If controlling the Relay directly I saw a post from MobiLinc that said there is a list of commands that apply. All but the On command can be deleted so only On commands are issued. Direct On command always turns the Relay On in any of the Momentary modes. It is Scene commands that are sensitive to which Momentary mode is being used. I am not currently controlling a scene for the garage door. Would you suggest I do so to make everything work easily and quickly?
LeeG Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 You will need a Scene for a KeypadLinc button to control the I/O Linc Relay. That Scene can be used from MobiLinc. I guess you could trigger a Program on the KPL button press and control the Relay with the Program but I see no advantage to that approach. I do not use MobiLinc so have no experience to draw on to know the advantages of Direct versus Scene from MobiLinc. I'm sure there will be folks that use MobiLinc and can recommend an approach.
Xathros Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 If you turn the relay back off with a program, the ISY status will update accordingly and Mobilinc will see that as well. That way, your next press in Mobilinc will be an On. I use mobilinc to run a program that does the IOLinc On-Off and KPL scene activations for me. -Xathros
JSP0511 Posted July 17, 2013 Author Posted July 17, 2013 If you turn the relay back off with a program, the ISY status will update accordingly and Mobilinc will see that as well. That way, your next press in Mobilinc will be an On. I use mobilinc to run a program that does the IOLinc On-Off and KPL scene activations for me. -Xathros Does the button press on your kpl simply run the program? Or does it turn on the "scene" which is iolinc "on", with the program then recognizing the iolinc "on" status and turns it off (after 1,2 or even 5 seconds, whichever you choose)?
Xathros Posted July 17, 2013 Posted July 17, 2013 I only use a scene to control the KPL buttons - not the IOLincs. I have 3 8 button KPL's and 2 garage doors. I have created 2 scenes. The first contains all of the G buttons as responders the second contains all of the H buttons as responders. All of the G&H buttons are in NonToggle-On mode. I have door actuator programs that watch for a Control On coming from any of those KPL buttons and respond by Turning On then Off the appropriate IOLinc. The IOLincs are in MomentaryA (I believe but will have to double check that). The Off is simply to clear the relay On status in the ISY and has no functional value for me. I use a Mobilinc Favorite to "RunThen" of the appropriate garage door program. This does a nice toggle Open/Close. I have another set of programs that watch the IOLinc sensor and set the KPL G&H scenes based on the sensor status. I have a few more programs that are called by the door actuator programs and if the door is open when called, will wait for 20 seconds then send me an alert if the IOLinc sensor shows that the door has not closed. I have another thread: http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?p=87673#p87673 on the Mobilinc aspects of this that includes some of my programs and configurations. -Xathros
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