shannong Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Printed on my sensors in use is "5013 v1.0". I have another one ordered in Jan 2014 that says "5013 v1.1". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Ok, I have confirmed this with Smarthome. It is not compatible with ISY99i. thank you all for responding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Mike- I think this would be better: If Control '2845 - Door Sensor' is switched On Or Control '2845 - Door Sensor' is switched Off Then Wait 25 hours Resource 'DoorSensorNotResponding' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') This way and action from the sensor will re-trigger the 25 hour wait open or close. If you have a startup program, you would also want to add a runThen of this program to your startup to start the countdown after a system startup otherwise you could miss a failure of the sensor. -Xathros Ok, I can confirm that the 2845-222 V1.1 does send a heartbeat, I just seen it flash the RED LED while sitting here. It did not send an 'On' command since this program did not fire. After noticing the LED flash I picked up the sensor and pressed the button, received the Prowl notification and the above program is currently in the Running 'Then' state. ~Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 The Heartbeat uses a different Group number and the Low Battery also uses a different Group number. If the PLM does not have those links in its database. Even if the message is sent. It will not be seen. Because the On or Off was sent with that Group Number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Brian, Aware that is the case. Michel has verified there are some issues with detecting the device when adding. viewtopic.php?f=30&t=12494&start=60#p109591 Just posting the information to confirm that it does in fact transmit something in another Group periodically. ~Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teken Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Brian, Aware that is the case. Michel has verified there are some issues with detecting the device when adding. viewtopic.php?f=30&t=12494&start=60#p109591 Just posting the information to confirm that it does in fact transmit something in another Group periodically. ~Mike Over the years I have provided critical feed back to Smarthome via their forums, surveys, and direct e-mails, about the lack of communications to their third party vendors. My hope was in the future this lack of communication would be resolved. Its clear to me and millions of others around the world this company continues to fall short in this simple, yet critical area! There is never any mention of extra features, groups, programming, or why firmware updates occur. Its incredible that this company continues to operate and stay in business? Teken . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kohanim Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Thanks Teken! For those who have issues with Open/Close sensor, please try forcing the linkage to use Open/Close sensor (instead of Auto Discover) and please let me know what you find. We are trying to devise a solution for this anomaly. It's really quite a challenge trying to figure out what the device type is when it's reported incorrectly. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Thanks Teken! For those who have issues with Open/Close sensor, please try forcing the linkage to use Open/Close sensor (instead of Auto Discover) and please let me know what you find. We are trying to devise a solution for this anomaly. It's really quite a challenge trying to figure out what the device type is when it's reported incorrectly. With kind regards, Michel Michel, I just received three 2845-222 Hidden Door Sensors from SmartHome. I added them to ISY choosing the dropdown 2845-222 INSTEON Door Sensor and it only added one Node. All three are labeled V1.1 like my original purchased back in December. Another comment I would like to make is whatever I enter in the Name field of the 'New INSTEON Device' screen is ignored and the device is named the address with 'Door Sensor' appended, ie. '2B.0F.03.1 - Door Sensor' Firmware and UI are both v.4.1.2 ( 2014-01-13-23:20:00 ) ~Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kohanim Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hi Mike, Thanks so very much for the update. So, they do add correctly and behave correctly when forced to be added as 2845-222? I must admit that we found a bug in the firmware which incorrectly assigns the type as TriggerLinc. This is an intermittent issue and fixed in the next release. This said, I am not entirely certain that what we fixed is what has been reported. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shannong Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Both my v1.0 and my v1.1 sensors add to the ISY as door sensors using auto-discovery. I powered up my HouseLinc install and added a v1.1 to it. It does allow for configuration of the heartbeat interval along with a node for the heartbeat and low-battery warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shannong Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I believe this shows the group numbers of the heartbeat and low-battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 shannong, Thank you for posting. Hopefully this will assist the UDI team in adding this functionality to the ISY in a future release. I now have four of these installed throughout the house. ~Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shannong Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I turned HL logging on Verbose (highest level) in hopes of seeing the actual heartbeat message but nothing shows up. Other on/off messages appear so I'm pretty sure I'm looking at the right log. However, I'm new to HL and don't really use it for anything except for occasional troubleshooting. I really wish there was an Insteon probe and protocol analyzer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shannong Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Not sure why the heartbeats weren't registering at first but they are now. Hers's everything related I could find in the logs. It's taken from 3 different log files hence the 3 blocks with overlapping time stamps. 2014-03-30 16:55:55.2289,,Hidden Door Sensor,XX.0E.2E,Heartbeat,On 2014-03-30 16:55:55.7409,,Hidden Door Sensor,XX.0E.2E,Heartbeat,On 2014-03-30 16:55:56.1559,,Hidden Door Sensor,XX.0E.2E,Heartbeat,Success Broadcast 2014-03-30 16:55:56.6359,,Hidden Door Sensor,XX.0E.2E,Heartbeat,Success Broadcast 2014-03-30 16:55:55.2289,,Hidden Door Sensor,XX.0E.2E,Heartbeat,On 2014-03-30 16:55:55.7409,,Hidden Door Sensor,XX.0E.2E,Heartbeat,On 2014-03-30 16:55:56.1559,,Hidden Door Sensor,XX.0E.2E,Heartbeat,Success Broadcast 2014-03-30 16:55:56.6359,,Hidden Door Sensor,XX.0E.2E,Heartbeat,Success Broadcast 2014-03-30_16:55:56.1569,, Hidden Door Sensor, XX.0E.2E ,Broadcast, 2014-03-30 16:55:55.7409478, 04, 11 2014-03-30_16:55:56.1569,, Hidden Door Sensor, XX.0E.2E ,Cleanup, 2014-03-30 16:55:55.9489597, 04, 11 2014-03-30_16:55:56.1569,, Hidden Door Sensor, XX.0E.2E ,Success Report, 2014-03-30 16:55:56.1559715, 04, 11, 1, 0 2014-03-30 16:55:55,228 [3 ] DEBUG - Rx: Std Msg, From: XX.0E.2E, To: 00.00.04, Flag: CB (Hops: 2/3), C1: 11 (Light ON), C2: 04 2014-03-30 16:55:55,740 [3 ] DEBUG - Rx: Std Msg, From: XX.0E.2E, To: 00.00.04, Flag: CB (Hops: 2/3), C1: 11 (Light ON), C2: 04 2014-03-30 16:55:55,948 [3 ] DEBUG - Rx: Std Msg, From: XX.0E.2E, To: XX.9A.7C, Flag: 41 (Hops: 0/1), C1: 11 (Light ON), C2: 04 2014-03-30 16:55:56,155 [3 ] DEBUG - Rx: Std Msg, From: XX.0E.2E, To: XX.01.04, Flag: CB (Hops: 2/3), C1: 06 (Success Broadcast), C2: 00 2014-03-30 16:55:56,156 [9 ] DEBUG - Firing Hidden Door Sensor XX.0E.2E Heartbeat StateOpen event ... 2014-03-30 16:55:56,635 [3 ] DEBUG - Rx: Std Msg, From: XX.0E.2E, To: XX.01.04, Flag: CB (Hops: 2/3), C1: 06 (Success Broadcast), C2: 00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kohanim Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Thank you MikeD and shannong, We are going to try our best to include it in the next release. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendrix Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Thanks to Steve for helping me get one of these installed on Sunday, March 30. That's active tech support. Problem was my Insteon thermostats (5) broadcasting and loading down the network. Disabled them and then it linked OK as a Trigger link. Works fine with thermostats on, just would not link. UDI needs to look at giving users access to the broadcast parameters of the Insteon thermostats through the UI, since the broadcast params are not accessible via buttons. THANKS AGAIN STEVE!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I believe this shows the group numbers of the heartbeat and low-battery. [attachment=0]Capture.PNG[/attachment] Just loaded Firmware 4.2.0, cleared Java cache and confirmed my UI is 4.2.0. Deleted then re-added one of my Hidden Door Sensors. Unfortunately I see no additional Nodes to reference Heartbeat or Low Battery Groups, just the one as in Firmware 4.1.2. ~Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kohanim Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Hello MikeD, Can you please let me know what it's reporting? With kind regards, Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Hi Michel, It is reporting as a (2845-222) INSTEON Hidden Door Sensor v.43, for me the same as in prior release. I can post the level 3 Event Viewer trace of the add if you wish. ~Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kohanim Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Hi MikeD, I just went to the release notes and unfortunately and sadly this didn't make it into the release. I am so very sorry. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Hi Michel, That is at least verifying what I see. Hopefully it will make your next revision. I know you have numerous other more pressing issues to deal with at the moment. At least my firmware upgrade went smoothly and I am due to receive my Z-Wave assembly kit from you this Friday. Keep up the great work! Thank you, ~Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Hi Michel, I know the UDI team is working hard on Z-Wave implementation and very happy progress is being made there. Just wished to check on the status of the Hidden Door Sensor and the lack of Heartbeat / Low-Battery information in the ISY. I deleted / added one of my sensors with no changes seen in v4.2.1. Thanks, ~Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Kohanim Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hi MikeD, It's definitely on our list of high priorities. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Just wanted to report that Heartbeat is working on all four of my Hidden Door Sensors in v4.2.3 I have the Heartbeats set to report every 21 hours. Here is one of the programs I am using. If Control 'Door Sensors / Front Door / Front Door - Heartbeat' is switched On Or Control 'Door Sensors / Front Door / Front Door - Heartbeat' is switched Off Then Wait 24 hours Resource 'FrontDrSensorNotResponding' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I have another program to run all Then paths at startup. ~Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I have a Hidden Door Sensor that only registers Opened and Closed devices. I'm not running 4.2.5, how can I get the battery warning and heartbeat devices to show up? Do I need to remove and re-add the device? Thanks. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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