remedy1234 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Thanks Guys, Its been happening at my home often,which it could be all things you all suggested.But it just happened at a customer's house and that has a new PLM but could have low sensor battery it one of the motions.As far as the variables (at my location)I have more then one motion using the same program in the garage.Maybe it would be a good Idea to create a set of programs for each motion with its own variable?When the ALL ON happens the ISY does not see it.Any thoughts? Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Hi remedy1234, Please contact our support (links below) so that we can hook you up with our SmartHome reps for an updated version of PLM for you which specifically addresses the All on issue. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
remedy1234 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 That's wonderful SIR is that just a firmware update or will they be replacing the defective units over two years old like they do with ALL insteon products? Thanks for your help YOU GUYS ARE AWSOME!! Link to comment
chachdog Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I also set this up but for the kitchen. Kitchen #1 - [iD 000B][Parent 000E][Not Enabled] If Control 'Kitchen / Motion-Sensor' is switched On Then Run Program 'Kitchen #2' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Kitchen #2 - [iD 000A][Parent 000E] If Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is not switched On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is not switched Fast On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is not switched Fade Up Then Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Motion Night Light' Fast On Wait 1 minute Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Motion Night Light' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Kitchen #3 - [iD 000C][Parent 000E] If ( Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fast On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Up ) And ( Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is not switched Off Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is not switched Fast Off ) Then Disable Program 'Kitchen #1' Else Enable Program 'Kitchen #1' Turning the light on via the switch does disable program #1 but turning on the kitchen light via a scene will not disable it and when i turn off the scene, it does not re enable it if the kitchen light switch was used to disable it. Would I have to have the program check for all scenes being on or should it work. I see that you use fade up but not fade down. Is there a reason for not adding it to the switched off sections? I found an issue where the light was turned off but i guess possibly faded down and the program did not enable #1 until i tapped the down on the switch. Link to comment
LeeG Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 If Control is a trigger ONLY when the device is manually operated. That is a major characteristic of If Control. Turning the device On/Off with a Scene is not manual operation of the device and therefore does not trigger the Program. If Status triggers when a device is operated by a Scene, as a Responder to another device (which is a Scene), and when device is operated manually. Use the If variation that satisfies the requirements of the situation. Link to comment
chachdog Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Thanks! Thought I had it but when i turn off the scene, kitchen 2b triggers the one minute 1 minute on/off. Kitchen #1 - [iD 000B][Parent 000E] If Control 'Kitchen / Motion-Sensor' is switched On Then Run Program 'Kitchen #2B' (Then Path) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Kitchen #2B - [iD 0010][Parent 000E] If Status 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is Off Then Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Motion Night Light' On Wait 1 minute Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Motion Night Light' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Kitchen #3B - [iD 0011][Parent 000E] If Status 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is not Off Then Disable Program 'Kitchen #1' Else Enable Program 'Kitchen #1' Link to comment
LeeG Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 The Scene turning Off cannot cause Kitchen #1 to trigger. That leaves either another Program being triggered or the Scene contains 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets'. 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' turning Off will trigger Kitchen #2B Link to comment
chachdog Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I have disabled all other programs while I am testing this. I have a scene "kitchen Cabinets Motion Light" has the kitchen cabinet lights @ 50% it. When the motion triggers, it turns on the lights and it turns off. Immediately the kitchenB fires that says if its off, turn it on. seems like a loop. Also, when they are on, kitchen#3b disables kitchen#1b. How can get around this? using variables? i have not gotten that far into programming yet to use them. I see an example earlier in this thread but don't know what it is doing. Link to comment
LeeG Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 "Immediately the kitchenB fires that says if its off, turn it on. seems like a loop. " Besides the Program names discussed not matching the examples posted, kitchenB is describing Kitchen #2B?; the "seems like a loop" is discussing a Program that sounds like something you did not design? If you are using examples someone else authored please provide the functional details you want to implement. With that information a Program or Programs can be suggested to provide that function. Link to comment
chachdog Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 yes b and 2b are the same. sorry for the confusion. I would like for the motion sensor to turn on the light, keep it on if still detecting motion, turn off 1 min later but do nothing if the lights are already on by other means. A switch, scene etc. Link to comment
larryllix Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 yes b and 2b are the same. sorry for the confusion. I would like for the motion sensor to turn on the light, keep it on if still detecting motion, turn off 1 min later but do nothing if the lights are already on by other means. A switch, scene etc. Here is how I have accomplished this This is the basic MS lamp control program. A scene link between the MS and lamp already exists so the response is immediate. MBR Lamp.auto - [ID 009D][Parent 000A] If Control 'Master Bedroom / Motion.MBR' is switched On Then Wait 45 seconds Run Program 'MBR Lamp.auto' (Else Path) Else Set Scene 'Master Bedroom / MBR Passtrough' Off . . This is the manual override program from a remote. Note I still have a 2 hr. timer to shut off in case you forget and walk away or fall asleep. It also has code to shut down and revive the third Lamp Level Adjust program. MBR Lamp.manual - [ID 0038][Parent 000A] If Control 'Master Bedroom / MBR KeyPad.A' is switched On And Control 'Master Bedroom / MBR KeyPad.A' is not switched Off Then Set 'Master Bedroom / MBR Wall Lamp' Fast On Disable Program 'MBR Lamp.auto' Disable Program 'MBR Lamp Level adjust' In Scene 'Master Bedroom / Motion.MBR' Set 'Master Bedroom / MBR Wall Lamp' 100% (On Level) Wait 2 hours Run Program 'MBR Lamp.manual' (Else Path) Else Set 'Master Bedroom / MBR Wall Lamp' Off Run Program 'MBR Lamp Level adjust' (If) Wait 1 second Enable Program 'MBR Lamp Level adjust' Enable Program 'MBR Lamp.auto' Lamp will get direct hit by MS so adjusted scene level so it can't be noticed. . . Program to adjust levels for different times of the day. A 60W bulb glaring you in the face at 2:00 am is not nice. Note: This system uses three levels of brightness. Manual uses 100%,automatic uses 15% and 70%. MBR Lamp Level adjust - [ID 0084][Parent 000A] If From 10:30:00PM To 9:30:00AM (next day) Then In Scene 'Master Bedroom / Motion.MBR' Set 'Master Bedroom / MBR Wall Lamp' 15% (On Level) Else In Scene 'Master Bedroom / Motion.MBR' Set 'Master Bedroom / MBR Wall Lamp' 70% (On Level) Link to comment
chachdog Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Can you simplify what parts of yours could work in my situation? It looks like upon motion it waits 45 seconds. that means it will be dark in the kitchen for 45 seconds? I am having a hard time trying to follow and keep track of what all is happening and when. Link to comment
larryllix Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Can you simplify what parts of yours could work in my situation? It looks like upon motion it waits 45 seconds. that means it will be dark in the kitchen for 45 seconds? I am having a hard time trying to follow and keep track of what all is happening and when. You need all three to perform #1 basic on/off functions, #2 The manual override = lock on, #3 change brightness for different parts of the day. Substitute your own component names. I have just called these LIGHT, MS and MS/LIGHT for the scene First you need to have a scene, you create in ISY and include your MS as a controller and your kitchen light as a responder. This also assumes you have a main light in the kitchen controlled by a SwitchLink wall switch (connected to the main kitchen cabinet lights) for a manual control, and an MS and you want them both to control the same light. LIGHT.auto (enabled) -------------- If Control MS is switched On Then Wait 45 seconds <---------------make it 5 minutes for a kitchen Run this program (Else Path) <------ turns off the light and displays program as red colour for Admin Console Else Set Scene MS/LIGHT Off Manual override (enabled) ---------------------- If ( Control LIGHT is switched On <---- add other devices to manually override the auto program using 'OR'... 'if On' ) And ( Control LIGHT is not switched Off <-----switching off runs else and stops then <-----add in other manual off devices using 'OR'..... 'is not Off' ) Then Set LIGHT Fast On <----makes it 100% brightness and fast Disable Program 'LIGHT.auto' <-----no more MS activations while in manual control Disable Program 'Light Level adjust' <-----no more auto level changing from program below In Scene 'MS' Set Light to 100% (On Level) <---- further hits on light stays 100%, watch MS name is in scene pulldown Wait 2 hours <------just in case you forget it is in manual Run Program manual override (Else Path) <---jump to else below Else Set LIGHT Off <----------------manual control is over = turn it off Run Program 'Light Level adjust' (If) <----- set the scene dimming levels back dependant on the time of day Wait 1 second <------ let it finish Enable Program 'Light Level adjust' <---- OK now we want the levels to be self adjusting again Enable Program 'LIGHT.auto' <------------- now we want the MS to control the light again Light Level adjust (enabled) ----------------------- If From 10:30:00PM <- pick level change times To 9:30:00AM (next day) Then In Scene 'MS' Set LIGHT 5% (On Level) <----watch the name of the LIGHT not being a scene but in scene pulldown list Else In Scene 'MS' Set 'LIGHT' 70% (On Level) <-----same as above Link to comment
chachdog Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 This did not work for me. Thanks for the reply though. I think having the MS as a controller was part of it. It fired every time i walked past it. If I set the light level with the switch or another scene, the MS fired and changes it to the scene xyz level. All I am trying to do is have the motion sensor to turn on the light(all day/times, same brightness), keep it on if still detecting motion, turn it off after x minutes if no motion is detected, don't do anything if the lights are already on by other means( A switch, scene etc. ) and If while the motion program is running and the lights are changed by a scene or a switch, stop the motion program. if cabinets are already on by control motion program disabled if cabinets are already on by scene then motion program disabled If cabinets are off then motion program enabled if cabinets are enabled by motion but modified by scene or wall switch during the program then disable motion program. Problem was that when motion is enabled. it fires a scene that makes the scene be "on" which disables the program.so can't use status check. I have tried this program variation to try to get around it. It seems to work kind of but needs more testing. When I fix one thing, others break or create different issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kitchen Cabs ON? - [iD 0008][Parent 000A] If Status 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is not Off Then Disable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Kitchen Cabs OFF? - [iD 0010][Parent 000A] If Status 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is Off Then Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Kitchen Cabinet Motion - [iD 0014][Parent 000A] If Control 'Kitchen / Motion-Sensor' is switched On Then Disable Program 'Kitchen Cabs ON?' Set 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' 75% Wait 5 minutes Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Motion Night Light' Off Wait 10 seconds Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabs ON?' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I added an additional override. Kitchen Cab Switch Override - [iD 000D][Parent 000A] If Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fast On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Up Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Down Then Disable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabs ON?' Else Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How does it look? Link to comment
LeeG Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 If the Motion Sensor is a Controller of a Scene the Motion Sensor cannot be stopped by the ISY Disable. Insteon has no concept of enabling/disabling a Scene by issuing an ISY Enable/Disable of the Controller. The Motion Sensor can be marked Disabled but this has NO affect on the Motion Sensor controlling the Scene. Link to comment
chachdog Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 If the Motion Sensor is a Controller of a Scene the Motion Sensor cannot be stopped by the ISY Disable. Insteon has no concept of enabling/disabling a Scene by issuing an ISY Enable/Disable of the Controller. The Motion Sensor can be marked Disabled but this has NO affect on the Motion Sensor controlling the Scene. Yea I figured this out by trial. No matter what was going on the controller was just sending ON commands to the scene. Got any feedback for the programs I am using? Link to comment
larryllix Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 This did not work for me. Thanks for the reply though. I think having the MS as a controller was part of it. It fired every time i walked past it. If I set the light level with the switch or another scene, the MS fired and changes it to the scene xyz level. All I am trying to do is have the motion sensor to turn on the light(all day/times, same brightness), keep it on if still detecting motion, turn it off after x minutes if no motion is detected, don't do anything if the lights are already on by other means( A switch, scene etc. ) and If while the motion program is running and the lights are changed by a scene or a switch, stop the motion program. if cabinets are already on by control motion program disabled if cabinets are already on by scene then motion program disabled If cabinets are off then motion program enabled if cabinets are enabled by motion but modified by scene or wall switch during the program then disable motion program. Problem was that when motion is enabled. it fires a scene that makes the scene be "on" which disables the program.so can't use status check. I have tried this program variation to try to get around it. It seems to work kind of but needs more testing. When I fix one thing, others break or create different issues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Kitchen Cabs ON? - [iD 0008][Parent 000A] If Status 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is not Off Then Disable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Kitchen Cabs OFF? - [iD 0010][Parent 000A] If Status 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is Off Then Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Kitchen Cabinet Motion - [iD 0014][Parent 000A] If Control 'Kitchen / Motion-Sensor' is switched On Then Disable Program 'Kitchen Cabs ON?' Set 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' 75% Wait 5 minutes Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Motion Night Light' Off Wait 10 seconds Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabs ON?' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I added an additional override. Kitchen Cab Switch Override - [iD 000D][Parent 000A] If Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fast On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Up Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Down Then Disable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabs ON?' Else Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How does it look? OK I'll try to start out simple and add from there. You will not be able to do any dimming if you already have the MS and your lights in a scene. This is now out of ISY's hands but there is a way to do it as described in my other post above. You didn't say what didn't work for you. Get rid of the first two programs They aren't needed with your bottom one added. Take out lines that refer to them I added a fail safe 2 hour timer in case you forget the lights are in override. Watch the parenthesis placements. They are important. Your MS needs to be set to never send Off. Kitchen Cabinet Motion - [iD 0014][Parent 000A] If Control 'Kitchen / Motion-Sensor' is switched On Then Disable Program 'Kitchen Cabs ON?' Set 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' 75% <------- this doesn't work 'cause MS scene will keep changing level without ISY Wait 5 minutes Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Motion Night Light' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Kitchen Cab Switch Override - [iD 000D][Parent 000A] If ( Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fast On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Up Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Down ) AND Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is NOT switched Fast Off <---these run Else for Fast Off & Off AND Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is NOT switched Off Then Disable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Wait 2 hours Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Motion Night Light' Off <-----lest yee forget with usual automatic Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Else Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Motion Night Light' Off <----turn the light and scene off from switch too Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Link to comment
chachdog Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 " You didn't say what didn't work for you." I meant having the motion sensor as a controller to the kitchen light motion scene. You can't disable the device so no matter what you do by disabling the program, the scene is going to fire when motion is activated. for example. I walk in. the motion fires the scene. i adjust the switch and walk out. walk back in and the motion fires the scene moving the light level back to the scene regardless of the program disabled status. Also my program is with the motion sensor not being a controller to the scene. It just fires the scene after motion is detected as part of the program's "then". Not sure why your AND's are above the control lines and if you are missing ( )'s. Kitchen Cab Switch Override Copy - [iD 0017][Parent 0016] If ( Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fast On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Up Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Down ) And Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is not switched Fast Off And Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is not switched Off Then Disable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Wait 2 hours Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Else Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Motion Night Light' Off Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Kitchen Cab Switch Override Copy - [iD 0017][Parent 0016] If ( Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fast On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Up Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Down ) And Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is not switched Off And ( Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is not switched Fast Off ) Then Disable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Wait 2 hours Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Else Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Motion Night Light' Off Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Link to comment
larryllix Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Just a layout error from guessing. It wasn't copied from my ISY. If you read and understand my first post with the three programs you will find you can adjust the scene so that your lights will not come on even with a scene linking the MS and lights directly. Here's the scenario. You walk in and turn the lightswitch on, locking it on. You walk through the motion sensor area and it triggers the light on at the same level of brightness. You don't even notice. You walk out of the room and the program that turns off the light isn't running because the manual override program has disabled it. The light stays on forever or until the override "lest you forget" timer times out You turn off the manual override and the light turns off. Now your MS program works again. You use the third program and set the level of the scene to 0 during the day. You walk into the MS area and the scene turns the light on to 0 brightness. Does it make a difference? The user doesn't see it. Link to comment
chachdog Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I removed those other 2 programs and got it working this way. The kitchen has high hats also so i figured if they are on, they are on manually (shares the cab switch) or by a scene. either way I don't want the motion to do anything if this is on so i used it as an unrelated condition to the program. Kitchen Cab Switch Override Copy - [iD 0016][Parent 001A] If Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fast On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Up Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Down Then Disable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion Copy' Else Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion Copy' xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Kitchen Cabinet Motion Copy - [iD 0017][Parent 001A] If Control 'Kitchen / Motion-Sensor' is switched On And Status 'Kitchen / Kitchen High Hats' is Off Then Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Motion Night Light' On Wait 1 minute Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Motion Night Light' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') RE: Here's the scenario. You walk in and turn the light switch on, locking it on. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Can't get to the switch before motion picks you up. ) The only way to kill Motion is to turn on the switch or start a scene. which is what i was looking for. Thanks for your pointers. They all helped. Link to comment
larryllix Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 ..... If Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fast On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Up Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Down Then Disable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion Copy' Else <--------------nothing runs this Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion Copy' ..... Link to comment
chachdog Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 ..... If Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fast On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched On Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Up Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Fade Down Then Disable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion Copy' Else <--------------nothing runs this Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion Copy' ..... Wouldn't else run if the "if" was false? meaning everything was off? Link to comment
LeeG Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 No. "If Status" triggers a Program whether the specified Status being checked matches, which can result in a False evaluation that drives the Else clause. "If Control 'xxxx' is switched yyy" triggers the Program ONLY when the condition matches. There is no False evaluation so Else does not run. The "If Control 'xxxx' is not switched yyy" triggers the Program when "not switched yyy" and drives the Else clause because of the "not". 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Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:00 AM : [X10-RSP ] 02 63 62 80 06 Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:01 AM : [X10-RX ] 02 52 66 00 Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:01 AM : [ X10] A1 Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:10 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 16.3F.93 00.00.01 CB 13 00 LTOFFRR(00) Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:10 AM : [std-Group ] 16.3F.93-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:10 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [16 3F 93 1] [DOF] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:10 AM : [ 16 3F 93 1] DOF 0 Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:10 AM : [D2D-CMP 0094] CTL [16 3F 93 1] DOF op=6 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) != Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:10 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [16 3F 93 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:10 AM : [ 16 3F 93 1] ST 0 Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:10 AM : [X10-RSP ] 02 63 66 00 06 Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:10 AM : [D2D-CMP 0080] STS [16 3F 93 1] ST op=1 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> true Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:10 AM : [D2D-CMP 0067] STS [16 3F 93 1] ST op=1 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> true Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:10 AM : [D2D-CMP 0019] STS [16 3F 93 1] ST op=1 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:10 AM : [ X10] A1 Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:10 AM : [ X10] A1/Off (11) Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:11 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 16.3F.93 22.80.0B 4B 13 01 LTOFFRR(01) Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:11 AM : [std-Cleanup ] 16.3F.93-->ISY/PLM Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:11 AM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:11 AM : [X10-RSP ] 02 63 63 80 06 Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:12 AM : [X10-RX ] 02 52 66 00 Sat 07/04/2015 11:23:12 AM : [ X10] A1 Should have included a command that "If Control" is not checking. Fast On does not trigger Program (no X10 traffic). Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 16.3F.93 00.00.01 CB 12 00 LTON-F (00) Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [std-Group ] 16.3F.93-->Group=1, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2 Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [16 3F 93 1] [DFON] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [ 16 3F 93 1] DFON 0 Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [D2D-CMP 001A] CTL [16 3F 93 1] DFON op=1 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> true Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [D2D-CMP 0019] CTL [16 3F 93 1] DFON op=6 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) != Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [16 3F 93 1] [sT] [255] uom=0 prec=-1 Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [ 16 3F 93 1] ST 255 Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [D2D-CMP 0080] STS [16 3F 93 1] ST op=1 Event(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [D2D-CMP 0067] STS [16 3F 93 1] ST op=1 Event(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [D2D-CMP 0019] STS [16 3F 93 1] ST op=1 Event(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) is Condition(val=255 uom=0 prec=-1) --> true Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [2E ED 5D 2] [sT] [255] uom=0 prec=-1 Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [ 2E ED 5D 2] ST 255 Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 16.3F.93 22.80.0B 41 12 01 LTON-F (01) Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [std-Cleanup ] 16.3F.93-->ISY/PLM Group=1, Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 Sat 07/04/2015 11:46:21 AM : [iNST-DUP ] Previous message ignored. 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chachdog Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 so another program is needed to check for status being off to enable? Kitchen Cabinet Enable Motion - [iD 0011][Parent 001A] If Status 'Kitchen / Kitchen High Hats' is Off Then Wait 20 seconds Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
LeeG Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Whether another Program is needed would be dependent on the logic of the Programs. An If Control .......... Or Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is not switched Off will drive the Else clause when the device is physically switched Off Of course a separate Program with If Control 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is switched Off Then Wait 20 seconds Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Or Status can be used If Status 'Kitchen / Kitchen Cabinets' is Off Then Wait 20 seconds Enable Program 'Kitchen Cabinet Motion' Just depends on whether looking for the device that is physically turned Off where If Control is used, or If Status when checking for device being Off whether turned Off at the device or something else turned the device Off. Link to comment
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