tdroney Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I can't seem to get this to work, any help would be appreciated. The hot water turns on (and off) with the button push, but I can't get it to turn off automatically after 15 min like I want. The kitchen switch is a 6 button keypad and works on, off, etc. I also have a similar program in the Mbath that turns on the hot water pump, same problem- thanks, Tim If Status 'Hot Water Pump' is Off And Status 'Kit Sink Light / Hot Water Kit' is Off And Control 'Kit Sink Light / Hot Water Kit' is switched On Then Set 'Hot Water Pump' On Wait 15 minutes Set 'Hot Water Pump' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
paulbates Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 It looks to me like the if can never be true. Try removing this line and rerunning And Status 'Kit Sink Light / Hot Water Kit' is Off Link to comment
paulbates Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I think my reason may not be quite right, its that the program is changing the condition of its entry. However, I believe the conclusion is right and that line should be removed. Link to comment
LeeG Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 As soon as 'Hot Water Pump' Status changes to On and the Wait executed the If is reevaluated as False running the Else. The common approach is to split the Program into 2 programs. The Then of program 1 invokes Program 2. Program 2 contains the Then logic now in the single Program. When the Status of 'Hot Water Pump' changes and invokes the Else in Program 1 it will not affect Program 2. If Status 'Hot Water Pump' is Off And Status 'Kit Sink Light / Hot Water Kit' is Off And Control 'Kit Sink Light / Hot Water Kit' is switched On Then Run Program 2 (Then) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Program 2 If Then Set 'Hot Water Pump' On Wait 15 minutes Set 'Hot Water Pump' Off Else Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I think my reason may not be quite right, its that the program is changing the condition of its entry. However, I believe the conclusion is right and that line should be removed. I have to agree but I don't believe he needs two of the three lines leaving only If Control 'Kit Sink Light / Hot Water Kit' is switched On With just this line the timer would be retriggered each time you pushed the 'Hot Water Kit' button. I am not sure why you would want to test if the pump is already on. Possibly so the timer cannot retrigger and be extended? Link to comment
EricK Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 How about think of this another way. Seems like you have two Kpl buttons and then a third device that is connected to the pump (switchlinc I presume). Create a scene 'hot water' with all three devices as controllers. Then a program: If status hot water switchlinc is on Then Wait 15 minutes Set scene 'hot water off' If you want the pump to go on longer than 15 minutes you would have to hit a button to turn the scene off, then again to turn it on and trigger the program. Eric Link to comment
stusviews Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Lee has it right. Status is re-evaluated each time there is a change. So the condition If Status 'Hot Water Pump' is Off evaluates as false as soon as Then Set 'Hot Water Pump' On occurs. Because the statement is false, the program executes Else. Link to comment
tdroney Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 LeeG- Well the "program 2" method seems to work. I had this working a year ago when I first purchased the 994i. I don't remember the program, but it was not the 2nd program method you described. So is this how to get a motion detector to turn on a light or other item for a period of time? Or some other program method? Thanks so much for the help. This has been driving me nuts for a while now... -Tim Link to comment
oberkc Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 So is this how to get a motion detector to turn on a light or other item for a period of time? Or some other program method? The options can be a bit broader than this, but if you have a program condition who's status will be changed by the program execution, then, yes, it is often best and easiest to break these into two programs. If your execution has no WAIT statements or REPEATs, then it matters less to break them into two programs. Link to comment
LeeG Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 tdroney It is not that simple. The need for two programs was dictated by the Program changing the Status of one of the conditions in the If section along with having a Wait in the Then clause. A Motion Sensor driven Program might want the logic in one program. If Control 'MotionSensor-Sensor' is switched On Then Set 'xxxxx' On Wait 5 minutes Set 'xxxxx' Off Else In this case each new motion sensed before the 5 minutes is over sets a new 5 minute period. Device 'xxxxx' turns Off after the last motion sensed. This case needs the logic in one Program. The requirements determine how the logic is implemented and how many Programs are used. Link to comment
tdroney Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Thanks Lee, I'm not a programmer, so this "logic" doesn't always appear logical to me. I appreciate the help. No on to getting my thermostat to program properly... Link to comment
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