Based on a very limited sample of what I have seen and read here and with other people. I believe we are on the cuspid of seeing early options and functions of the ICS3 protocol in the wild.

 

This comes across to me that some aspects are not being deployed correctly by UDI per the Insteon developer docs.

 

While there appears to be a (early testing) of firmware that support some of these new features. I believe once UDI is able to engage their Smartlabs contact lots of these things should be resolved and working as expected.

 

 

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With Heartbeat Interval set at 20 hours, no reporting of Status in over 48. Admin Console shows current state Off. FYI. Thanks to all.  

With Heartbeat Interval set at 20 hours, no reporting of Status in over 48. Admin Console shows current state Off. FYI. Thanks to all.  

 

Hello Davonavo,

 

I would await for UDI to review this and a related thread. I believe there was a mistake / bug introduced in this last beta release. I also believe if the options you see are available in the console the reason it doesn't work is because UDI still needs to figure out how to code for these new options for the Open / Close sensor.

Hi Davonavo,

 

Please sumbit a ticket (links below).

 

With kind regards,

Michel

The Open/Close Sensor under options on ISY-994i allows for selecting different intervals to be set for Heartbeat. Does this determine how often ISY will look at last Heartbeat report, or how often the sensor will actually report? I understand the default report interval is about every 24 hours. Since ISY cannot interrogate battery operated units that are not always "on line", I see no way the report interval can be changed remotely. Right?

 

I just removed, reset, and relinked one of my 2843-222 Rev. 1.9 open/close sensors and I do get a Heartbeat node which I previously did not have, but I do not see the ability to check options.  I'll submit a ticket for this if you haven't already.

Ticket submitted today. Davonavo.

I can confirm the heartbeat does work on these devices.  I set up a simple program to notify me on a change:

PoolRoomDoor - [ID 0167][Parent 0166]

If
        Control 'Z-HeartBeat / PoolRoomDoor-Heartbeat' is switched On
     Or Control 'Z-HeartBeat / PoolRoomDoor-Heartbeat' is switched Off
 
Then
        Send Notification to 'Pushover-Default'
 
Else
   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')
 

And 24 hours after setting up deleting and re-adding the sensor, I received the notification.

 

Now to modify the leak sensor programs to monitor these heartbeats  Although I wish I didn't have to delete and re-add them to see that node

I can confirm the heartbeat does work on these devices.  I set up a simple program to notify me on a change:

PoolRoomDoor - [ID 0167][Parent 0166]

If
        Control 'Z-HeartBeat / PoolRoomDoor-Heartbeat' is switched On
     Or Control 'Z-HeartBeat / PoolRoomDoor-Heartbeat' is switched Off
 
Then
        Send Notification to 'Pushover-Default'
 
Else
   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')
 

And 24 hours after setting up deleting and re-adding the sensor, I received the notification.

 

Now to modify the leak sensor programs to monitor these heartbeats  Although I wish I didn't have to delete and re-add them to see that node

 

Jimbo,

 

That is most excellent to hear these features work. Can you provide a screen capture of the options list for this sensor for those who don't have this latest release.

Teken, I do not get the button for viewing the ISY options, so the heartbeat default is every 24 hours, that's all I know. I've submitted a ticket to support.

 

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Edited January 3, 201511 yr by Jimbo

Teken, I do not get the button for viewing the ISY options, so the heartbeat default is every 24 hours, that's all I know. I've submitted a ticket to support.

 

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That is so weird you can see the node added yet do not see the options button?? Where as the other member can see the options list but does not have the ability to interact with it??

 

I believe if the OP deletes the device and adds it back in he may see the same thing you do now. I hope he see's the options tab though because then some basic tests could be performed. Much thanks for taking the time to craft the program and to see the heart beat works.

 

I am going to sit this one out for a a few months so (existing) supplies of the Open / Close sensor clears inventory and perhaps newer firmware may be loaded down the road. 

Yes, strange.  I checked each node and do not get the options button at the bottom.  The ISY window still shows them as a "(2421) TriggerLinc V.40" so may be that is why.  I purchased them 3/26/14 as 2843-222's, and they are the newer 1.9 firmware based on the label inside.  I'm just happy to have a heartbeat since there was no other way to check that they were responding besides opening/closing the door.  I've copied and modified the leak sensor monitor to just monitor the hearbeat of these which was really simple.

Yes, strange.  I checked each node and do not get the options button at the bottom.  The ISY window still shows them as a "(2421) TriggerLinc V.40" so may be that is why.  I purchased them 3/26/14 as 2843-222's, and they are the newer 1.9 firmware based on the label inside.  I'm just happy to have a heartbeat since there was no other way to check that they were responding besides opening/closing the door.  I've copied and modified the leak sensor monitor to just monitor the hearbeat of these which was really simple.

 

I always find it strange and interesting at the same time that Smartlabs will introduce some features but not mention it at all. Your device would probably fall in the 1.9 manual iteration vs the 1.9+ manual.

 

Which neither mention these new features.

 

Based on a quick review it appears firmware v.43 in various devices brings these features on line for different aspects. But, since not all devices track with the same firmware this is not a true method to determine capabilities. Keep us all in the loop as to what UDI finds or resolves for you.

Edited January 4, 201511 yr by Teken

All,

 

Few changes that we just recently became privy to:

1. The original open close sensor is discontinued. This device supported both heartbeat as well as low bat

2. Original TriggerLinc with firmware version 40 and above was renamed to Open Close Sensor

3. The new Open Close sensor does NOT support low bat

 

This said, if you recently purchased an Open Close sensor or if the firmware version shows more than 39 it is probably identified as a TriggerLinc in ISY. You need to remove it from ISY , install 4.2.21 and then link it back.

 

With kind regards ,

Michel

2. Original TriggerLinc with firmware version 40 and above was renamed to Open Close Sensor

 

With v4.2.21 I just added a spare Open/Closed Sensor Model 2843-222, inside label reads 3313 Rev 1.9. ISY Auto Discover named it a TriggerLinc v.40. Three nodes showed up: Opened, Closed, Heartbeat.

 

~Mike

Edited January 4, 201511 yr by MikeD

With v4.2.21 I just added a spare Open/Closed Sensor Model 2843-222, inside label reads 3313 Rev 1.9. ISY Auto Discover named it a TriggerLinc v.40. Three nodes showed up: Opened, Closed, Heartbeat.

 

~Mike

I linked using Link Sensor -> Open close sensor, and it shows up as (2421) TriggerLinc v.40 with the 3 nodes.

Hi Jimbo,

 

Exactly, should have fully described it as (2421) TriggerlLinc v.40.

 

~Mike

Thank you,

 

Now they should send out heartbeat events.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

My Open/Close Sensor reported its first Heartbeat report, Status 0%. Is that good or bad? Sensor reports on/off conditions properly. I removed and replaced sensor in Rev. 4.2.21. Sticker inside says 3914 rev.1.9. 2843-222.

I didn't check the value, but I think it alternated on and off for the 2 I received.

 

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The Heartbeat message On/Off state reflects the state of the Sensor when the Heartbeat message is sent.

 

The Heartbeat message can be generated by tapping the Sensor Set button.   Approx 15 seconds after sending test Sensor On/Off message from tapping Set button the Heartbeat message is sent.  Works like the Leak Sensor does in this area.

 

The Open Close Sensor has v.40 firmware and three nodes when added to ISY using 4.2.21 or 4.2.22  

I just removed and added my 2421 Triggerlinc v.40 back to ISY v.4.2.22. I have the same three nodes as reported by others. Opened, Closed, and Heartbeat

 

Does anyone know the interval of the heartbeat? Oddly,there isn't any reference to a heartbeat in the owner's manual.

 

I also found that using a program to "Write Device Updates" does not work with this device.

Edited January 10, 201511 yr by shannong

The heartbeat should be sent approximately every 24 hours.

 

All battery operated devices must be put into the linking mode in order to write updates, however there are exceptions with the latest version of the beta ISY firmware

Edited January 10, 201511 yr by Techman

I wanted to bring this back to the top and ask if anyone has received a brand new Open-Close sensor (Trigger Linc) and whether or not it has the *Options* to set battery, heart beat etc.

 

Please indicate the hardware revision, production date, along with the ISY firmware.

Obtained 1st week of June 2015

 

Hardware REV 1.B

Firmware V.43

Production Date 4614

I2CS

No Jumper

 

No "Options"

Edited August 15, 201510 yr by LeeG

Obtained 1st week of June 2015

 

Hardware REV 1.B

Firmware V.43

Production Date 4614

I2CS

No Jumper

 

No "Options"

 

LeeG,

 

Hoping to see a production unit with a 2015 marking but good to know its possible 4614 units have no options. Some of this is really frustrating to keep track of and know what to expect.

 

I've said this 99999999999999999999999999 times over the years and will continue to do so. Would it kill anyone to provide release notes on product development or enhancements?!?!? I am at a complete loss as to why a company would not take a small amount of time and publish the information, features, with release notes.

 

This is basic 101 in almost any industry I know of.