motion sensor in scene issues

[jkraus]

Sorry, this is similar to another post I made.

 

There may be no way to do this…but have to ask.  I used to turn on a “Garage Lite” from a motion sensor triggering a program, but I found the response quite slow.  So recently I made a scene with “Garage lite” and “motion sensor” in the scene and it works great, very fast.

 

However, before I made the change I used to have another KPL switch “mood light” which set “Garage lite” to a lower brightness and the motion sensor program was told not to turn off if the “mood light” was on.  Worked fine, except as I said was slow.

 

Now with the scene approach rather than the program approach, there is no way to make this work. That is when I have the “mood light” on it is OK until I walk by the sensor and the “Garage lite” turns on to the level of the scene.

 

It seems there is a command to change the scene under certain conditions in a program, but this does not seem to help.  As I said there may be no way to do what I am trying.

 

Thanks

 

Joe

[paulbates]

Joe

 

You can set the MS to send "on" only and configure it to a scene so it comes on fast. So the MS turns it on, but not off. Have a program watch for the "on", and other conditions, to decide to wait the right amount of time and then switch off. Its not 100% clear to me, but the program's 'if' could look at if the othe KPL is on already on, or use variables to track its status if other programs are used.

 

Paul

[jkraus]

Hi Paul

That is exactly what I do ie, the MS does not send an off and a program manages the time.  The issue is that when I want to set the "garage lite" to a lower lever the MS when activated sets it to the scene level,  Unless I missed your point .

[LeeG]

The Motion Sensor cannot be stopped from using the Scene. Something like this changes the On Level the Motion Sensor uses. The lower Garage Lite On Level in the IF and Then clauses likely needs to change to match your situation.

 

GarageSceneAdjust - [iD 0097][Parent 0001]

 

If

Status 'Garage Lite' is 30%

 

Then

In Scene 'MotionSensor2-Sensor' Set 'Garage Lite' 30% (On Level)

 

Else

In Scene 'MotionSensor2-Sensor' Set 'Garage Lite' 100% (On Level)

[MFBra]

Any way to change dusk.dawn value inside a program?

 

 

 

MF_Bra

[LeeG]

None that I know of. The Motion Sensor is normally asleep so it would not accept a command even if there was a command available.

[MFBra]

The option to delay writes to device when it's on doesn't apply?

I know it may not cover all use cases, but for the cases I envision could work.

 

Similarly one could adjust timeout of the device to accomplish the desired behavior, I mean you could increase significantly the timeout during the periods you don't want it to trigger and return it to the normal condition to have fast "light responses" when desired.

 

 

 

 

 

MFBra

[LeeG]

There is no API to adjust that value.

[LeeG]

Why is changing Darkness Sensitivity and/or Night Only Mode important for Program interface. If there is a broad user need to set either Option under a Program perhaps it can be considered as a future capability.

[larryllix]

Sorry, this is similar to another post I made.

 

There may be no way to do this…but have to ask.  I used to turn on a “Garage Lite” from a motion sensor triggering a program, but I found the response quite slow.  So recently I made a scene with “Garage lite” and “motion sensor” in the scene and it works great, very fast.

 

However, before I made the change I used to have another KPL switch “mood light” which set “Garage lite” to a lower brightness and the motion sensor program was told not to turn off if the “mood light” was on.  Worked fine, except as I said was slow.

 

Now with the scene approach rather than the program approach, there is no way to make this work. That is when I have the “mood light” on it is OK until I walk by the sensor and the “Garage lite” turns on to the level of the scene.

 

It seems there is a command to change the scene under certain conditions in a program, but this does not seem to help.  As I said there may be no way to do what I am trying.

 

Thanks

 

Joe

You should be able to set your scene to any level you want at any time.

 

Read the example programs here

http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/16694-50-latency-question/

[MFBra]

Why is changing Darkness Sensitivity and/or Night Only Mode important for Program interface. If there is a broad user need to set either Option under a Program perhaps it can be considered as a future capability.

I believe most users have been "working around" to achieve the desired behavior or "almost desired " but if we could adjust some options "on the fly" we could accomplish.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

MFBra

[larryllix]

I believe most users have been "working around" to achieve the desired behavior or "almost desired " but if we could adjust some options "on the fly" we could accomplish.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

MFBra

Yup. All devices should also send the analogue value and just let the home automation controller sort it out.

 

Sometime we don't want all the distributed intelligence and want more control, but technology is changing rapidly and it was created in an older technology era....what?... five ten years ago?