chachdog Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Is there a way or a better way to do this with 1 program? It works but it also triggers on time events as false due to the motion not being triggered but the time changed. motion sensor on a fan/light on an fanlinc day- motion triggers fan only. night - motion triggers light and fan. If 1.5 hr from sunset to sunrise next day. and control motion sensor is on. then set outside fan on set outside lights on wait 5 min set outside fan off set outside lights off Else set outside fan on wait 5 min set outside fan off Link to comment
oberkc Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I believe this will take two programs to properly execute. Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 As per oberkc above. If 1.5 hr from sunset to sunrise next day. <---this will always trigger else and control motion sensor is on. then set outside fan on set outside lights on wait 5 min set outside fan off set outside lights off Else set outside fan on wait 5 min set outside fan off Time frames are a gotcha' in ISY. They need to be disabled to NOT trigger the else at the end of the filter condition. If control motion sensor is switched on. <----requires triggering enabled Then run (if) Program2 Else -- Program 2 (disabled) --------- If 1.5 hr from sunset to sunrise next day. <--requires triggering disabled=filter only then set outside fan on set outside lights on wait 5 min set outside fan off set outside lights off Else set outside fan on wait 5 min set outside fan off Link to comment
chachdog Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 As per oberkc above. If 1.5 hr from sunset to sunrise next day. <---this will always trigger else and control motion sensor is on. then set outside fan on set outside lights on wait 5 min set outside fan off set outside lights off Else set outside fan on wait 5 min set outside fan off Time frames are a gotcha' in ISY. They need to be disabled to NOT trigger the else at the end of the filter condition. If control motion sensor is switched on. <----requires triggering enabled Then run (if) Program2 Else -- Program 2 (disabled) --------- If 1.5 hr from sunset to sunrise next day. <--requires triggering disabled=filter only then set outside fan on set outside lights on wait 5 min set outside fan off set outside lights off Else set outside fan on wait 5 min set outside fan off I was thinking an else if would do it which is essentially what you have there. 2 programs will also do it. Just trying to make sure I wasn't missing something easy. thanks Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 You mean I posted and editted two compleyr programs, verified the posting and now the mahor part of the code is missing,? Anybody else see more than one line of code in my post? Link to comment
oberkc Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Your code looks complete and accurate to me Link to comment
larryllix Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Thanks. I only see one line with Tapatalk??? Edit: I see the whole program(s) now with IE, now. Link to comment
chachdog Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 I was under the impression that if you disable a program it can't run on its own. I have a motion #2 program that is disabled but still runs the else. Is this by design or am I missing something? This program is disabled but runs the else when I turn off the living room lights. But when I turn the living room lights on, it doesn't trigger the "then" Kitchen Motion 2 - [iD 0013][Parent 0014][Not Enabled] If Status 'Living / Living Room Lights' is not Off Then Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Lights' On Wait 5 minutes Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Lights' Off Else Set Scene 'Kitchen / ~Kitchen Cabs' On Wait 5 minutes Set Scene 'Kitchen / ~Kitchen Cabs' Off Is this by design? I thought if it was disabled it would not run with triggers unless something told it to run from a program. Link to comment
larryllix Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 That shouldn't be happening unless you have another program calling it as a subroutine. The find option can find this. Link to comment
chachdog Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 I don't have that many programs what do you mean with FInd? Link to comment
chachdog Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 here is a event viewer on 3 starting from an OFF to the living room lights. Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 38 8E 0E 0F 13 00 Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 38.8E.0E 0F 13 00 06 LTOFFRR(00) Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 38.8E.0E 38.FF.95 2F 13 00 LTOFFRR(00) Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 38.8E.0E-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [38 8E E 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1 Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [ 38 8E E 1] ST 0 Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [D2D-CMP 0013] STS [38 8E E 1] ST op=6 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) != Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [D2D-CMP 0008] STS [38 8E E 1] ST op=6 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) != Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [D2D-CMP 000E] STS [38 8E E 1] ST op=6 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) != Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [D2D-CMP 0010] STS [38 8E E 1] ST op=6 Event(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) != Condition(val=0 uom=0 prec=-1) --> false Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [D2D EVENT ] Event [38 8E E 1] [RR] [27] uom=0 prec=-1 Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [ 38 8E E 1] RR 27 Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [All ] Writing 1 bytes to devices Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:00 PM : [38 8E E 1 ] Memory : Write dbAddr=0x0021 [1B] cmd1=0x2E cmd2=0x00 Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:01 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 38 8E 0E 1F 2E 00 01 05 1B 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B1 Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:01 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 38.8E.0E 1F 2E 00 01 05 1B 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B1 06 (00) Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:01 PM : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 00 00 2D CF 11 00 Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:01 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.2D CF 11 00 06 LTONRR (00) Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:01 PM : [Ext MH ] Unexpected Ack imCmd=62 cmd1=LTONRR 0x11 Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:01 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 38.8E.0E 38.FF.95 2F 2E 00 (00) Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:01 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 38.8E.0E-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:06 PM : [iNST-TX-I2CS] 02 62 38 8E 0E 1F 2E 00 01 05 1B 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B1 Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:06 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 38.8E.0E 1F 2E 00 01 05 1B 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 B1 06 (00) Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:07 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 38.8E.0E 38.FF.95 2F 2E 00 (00) Tue 12/08/2015 01:07:07 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 38.8E.0E-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=3 Link to comment
larryllix Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I don't have that many programs what do you mean with FInd? Right click on the suspect program and select Find/Replace. In that box you will find methods to select programs, variables, scenes, devices. Select program, pulldown the menu and select the offending program and click find several times. ISY will take you through every occurrence of the program name. Hopefully you will find usage of your program somewhere else that is causing your problem. Link to comment
stusviews Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I don't have that many programs what do you mean with FInd? Right click on My Programs to initiate a search (Find/Replace). Link to comment
chachdog Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 The find found just the Kitchen Motion 1 which calls the kitchen 2 upon motion. . I was testing some more and found that If the kitchen 1motion is disabled and then enabled, it runs the "then" which fires kitchen2. (unless it is running the if and thinking motion was detected which it shouldn't be) I canreplicate this issue. Why would enabling a program cause it to run? there is no motion in the kitchen when enabling it. Is it skipping the if and running the then? Any way to capture the logs to see if this is what is happening? Kitchen Motion 1 - [iD 001A][Parent 0014][Not Enabled] If Control 'Kitchen / Motion-Sensor' is switched On Then Run Program 'Kitchen Motion 2' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Kitchen Motion 2 - [iD 0013][Parent 0014][Not Enabled] If Status 'Living / Living Room Lights' is not Off Then Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Lights' On Wait 5 minutes Set Scene 'Kitchen / Kitchen Lights' Off Else Set Scene 'Kitchen / ~Kitchen Cabs' On Wait 5 minutes Set Scene 'Kitchen / ~Kitchen Cabs' Off Link to comment
larryllix Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 The find found just the Kitchen Motion 1 which calls the kitchen 2 upon motion. . I was testing some more and found that If the kitchen 1motion is disabled and then enabled, it runs the "then" which fires kitchen2. (unless it is running the if and thinking motion was detected which it shouldn't be) I canreplicate this issue. Why would enabling a program cause it to run? there is no motion in the kitchen when enabling it. Is it skipping the if and running the then? Any way to capture the logs to see if this is what is happening? Kitchen Motion 1 - [iD 001A][Parent 0014][Not Enabled] If Control 'Kitchen / Motion-Sensor' is switched On Then Run Program 'Kitchen Motion 2' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Enabling a program should NOT make it run and doesn't on my ISY. What is your indicator that causes you to think it is running? Link to comment
stusviews Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 If you enabled the program when you were within range of the MS, then the 2nd program may run. BTW, did the THEN or ELSE execute? Link to comment
chachdog Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 Actually what I think is happening is that the program becomes enabled, runs the If, finds that the motion sensor is "on" and then goes on. I have another motion sensor and it says off but this one always says on. it has a 1 min timeout but never seems to say off. Link to comment
chachdog Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 If you enabled the program when you were within range of the MS, then the 2nd program may run. BTW, did the THEN or ELSE execute? i enabled the program from the isy across the house way after a 5 minute window. I think the motion sensor is stuck "on" status maybe. it shuts off the light after x minutes though but the console always says on. so maybe after enabling it, it says hey motion is on. go to then. Link to comment
larryllix Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 The first program Then clause should only trigger on a signal from the MS and only at the exact instant of the On signal. The MS status isn't being checked with the "switched ON" parameter. This shouldn't be possible unless your MS is sending out continuous signals. Have a look at your event viewer to see Insteon traffic. Link to comment
chachdog Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 Enabling a program should NOT make it run and doesn't on my ISY. What is your indicator that causes you to think it is running? because it is the only program that calls kitchen motion 2. if 2 can't run on its own due to being disabled. something is making the If run. must be the sensor on/off status and it is checking after enabling it or so it seems. Link to comment
larryllix Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 because it is the only program that calls kitchen motion 2. if 2 can't run on its own due to being disabled. something is making the If run. must be the sensor on/off status and it is checking after enabling it or so it seems. I have to assume the kitchen lights are operating then and this is assumed to be the Kitchen 2 program run from Kitchen 1. View the event viewer for excessive Insteon traffic. If that isn't the case I would try power cycling your ISY with a few seconds shut down. Link to comment
stusviews Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 i enabled the program from the isy across the house way after a 5 minute window. I think the motion sensor is stuck "on" status maybe. it shuts off the light after x minutes though but the console always says on. so maybe after enabling it, it says hey motion is on. go to then. If the program is enabled when the conditions are met, then it will run. Link to comment
chachdog Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 I factory reset it, removed it and readded it. seems to be turning off now. weird Link to comment
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