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Amigo

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Good afternoon,

I will be purchasing the ISY portal module but wanted to ask some questions first:

 

1. Portal cost; $49, is for two years, yes?

2. I understand that the portal offers multiple usernames and passwords associated with a single ISY, are there access rights per user credentials? I am looking to have a view only password, is this possible?

3. Can someone explain the HAD in more detail

4. Pure browser access, let's say I am travelling and don't have my own laptop with Admin Console with me, does the Portal offer a way to run the Admin Console through a browser, say like using chrome from a public PC. If not, is there a plans to address this soon? And what do you guys do right now, carry a dedicated laptop with you?

 

cheers.

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3. HAD: Its a UDAJAX customizable replacement for the default UDI ISY Web page. Functionally, you can use it for dashboards, control panels and reporting. As web pages, they are OS agnostic.

Here are examples, and if you look in the forum, a lot more controls and capabilities exist:

 

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4. You can run the java admin console through the Portal. My tablet device is an MS Surface which runs W10 & Java, that's what I settled on. I'm happy with it overall.

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Thank you.

How do I secure the default UDI ISY web page? I must be missing something but I can't see it anywhere in config tab of admin console, is it HTML role read only?

 

Accessing HAD & Security:

Its always secured by the ISY.. you have to give its credentials to get access to the pages. For more recent firmwares, you can turn HAD on or off by accessing the ISY's Web page, Settings and Default UI. You'll get a "generic version" of the pages that can be customized. 

 

Modifying HAD:

Do you have the Network Module?  Configuring and loading HAD is under Networking / web page. If you read through the HAD wiki & forum, you'll see where me and others got great support from Benoit Mercier, the author of HAD, on how to customize it.

 

Ultimately, copying files onto the ISY using the admin console gets tedious. After you get used to changing HAD on the ISY, there are directions in the forum for running it off of another lan web server. I use my NAS's web server to host the pages.

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Accessing HAD & Security:

Its always secured by the ISY.. you have to give its credentials to get access to the pages. For more recent firmwares, you can turn HAD on or off by accessing the ISY's Web page, Settings and Default UI. You'll get a "generic version" of the pages that can be customized. 

 

Modifying HAD:

Do you have the Network Module?  Configuring and loading HAD is under Networking / web page. If you read through the HAD wiki & forum, you'll see where me and others got great support from Benoit Mercier, the author of HAD, on how to customize it.

 

Ultimately, copying files onto the ISY using the admin console gets tedious. After you get used to changing HAD on the ISY, there are directions in the forum for running it off of another lan web server. I use my NAS's web server to host the pages.

 

Ok, I will look around and try to figure out how ISY secures HAD. I did not see anything in config tab of admin console that sticks out. And I do not see a section called "Networking / web page"

Using 5.02 UI and firmware. No network module yet, but I do see UD Ajax and HAD options under settings on the default web page, and I can turn stuff on/off on on this main/default HTML/Web page with no request for login or anything.

Sorry for the super newbie questions, just got my ISY.

cheers.

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No Problem, we all started at some point ;)

 

For 4.x or 5.x firmwares, you'll need the Network Module to see the web page option to see the ISY's folders and files.

 

I may not be clear on what you mean by "secure". If you access the ISY default pages or HAD from another system, it will challenge you for the admin account and pw.  The ISY file system does not have ACL capabilities that I have seen. You could do that if you looked for the directions for hosting the pages on your own server

 

Paul

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Thank you.

By secure I mean the same computer that I run the admin console application from, if I type in the browser the LAN ip address of my ISY I get the default web page, and I can turn stuff on/off with no challenge for credentials. If I run the admin console desktop application it will pop up the login dialog box.

But I get no challenge when I simply type in the ISY's LAN IP address directly in browser, it shows the UD Ajax or HAD which ever I chose and I see all my devices, programs, etc. and I can turn stuff on/off. So I don't want anyone just knowing ISY's IP address to be able to control things. My kids will have a hey day turning all the aoetec sirens on/off all day, :)

It must be a cache thing with the browser or something. I will try to figure it out.

And what is weird is I don't even have the network module yet, so why would UD Ajax or HAD be accessible by default anyway?

 

cheers.

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The universal portal login is https://my.isy.io and from there you have a secure login and can access UD Ajax, HAD or the admin console.

 

 

Jon...

Jon

 

I made an inquiry about HAD availability via the portal a while back and Michel indicated it was added to the list, but I don't think its been added yet.

 

EDIT: Kman corrected me, its available now.

 

Paul

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If you blink ... UDI slips in another feature. ;)

 

Now if Amazon would just be as responsive ...

 

If things are happening faster than I thought, I'll call it a good day . I might put that post under the tree this year ;)  The portal will give me a clean way to access my had pages from my heavily locked down corporate laptop, as well as my tablet, while travelling. 

 

I know that the UDI team and Benoit work very hard in the face of multiple responsibilities and a rapidly shifting technical landscape.

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I'm able to access the portal on my Mac through the Safari browser so I can setup device alias, etc... but I can't access the portal using my iPad mini. Any advice?

 

-Justin

Same here on my Android tablet (with Chrome). Hangs as the screenshot after authentication... :(

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Same here on Nexus 6P. When the portal was first released it worked fine, but I haven't tried from Android in a while.

 

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Glad to see I'm not the only one. I've confirmed I'm not blocking JavaScript from executing on the portal.
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Hello,

 

I'm trying to reproduce the problem, without much success.

 

I'm trying on Android native browser, chrome on android, chrome on ios, safari on iOS. All worked.

 

I need help reproducing the problem. I think there must be a javascript error on the browser console.

 

Can someone with the problem try the following:

- Connect a mobile device to the PC using a USB cable

- Start chrome on the mobile device

- On the PC, start chrome as well, and go to: chrome://inspect (this will start the remote debugger)

- Still on the PC, when connected to the mobile device, go to the console tab.

- On the mobile device, go to my.isy.login, and login

- Assuming you still have the problem, please look at console (on the PC), and please PM me a screen shot of the error(s).

 

Thanks,

 

Benoit

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Hello,

 

I'm trying to reproduce the problem, without much success.

 

I'm trying on Android native browser, chrome on android, chrome on ios, safari on iOS. All worked.

 

I need help reproducing the problem. I think there must be a javascript error on the browser console.

 

Can someone with the problem try the following:

- Connect a mobile device to the PC using a USB cable

- Start chrome on the mobile device

- On the PC, start chrome as well, and go to: chrome://inspect (this will start the remote debugger)

- Still on the PC, when connected to the mobile device, go to the console tab.

- On the mobile device, go to my.isy.login, and login

- Assuming you still have the problem, please look at console (on the PC), and please PM me a screen shot of the error(s).

 

Thanks,

 

Benoit

Benoit,

 

What Android version are you using to test? I'm on a Nexus 9, 6.0.1. I'll setup the remote debugger when I get to the office (traveling now...)

 

Also, a poster above reported an access issue with his iPad mini - don't know if its the same issue though. (Edit: Just tried Safari and Chrome on my iPad 9.0.2 and it worked fine in both).

 

Michael.

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