Amigo Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Good afternoon, I will be purchasing the ISY portal module but wanted to ask some questions first: 1. Portal cost; $49, is for two years, yes? 2. I understand that the portal offers multiple usernames and passwords associated with a single ISY, are there access rights per user credentials? I am looking to have a view only password, is this possible? 3. Can someone explain the HAD in more detail 4. Pure browser access, let's say I am travelling and don't have my own laptop with Admin Console with me, does the Portal offer a way to run the Admin Console through a browser, say like using chrome from a public PC. If not, is there a plans to address this soon? And what do you guys do right now, carry a dedicated laptop with you? cheers. Quote
paulbates Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) 3. HAD: Its a UDAJAX customizable replacement for the default UDI ISY Web page. Functionally, you can use it for dashboards, control panels and reporting. As web pages, they are OS agnostic. Here is the WIki There's a forum on the board under Home Automation Dashboard, the needs to be reviewed Here are examples, and if you look in the forum, a lot more controls and capabilities exist: 4. You can run the java admin console through the Portal. My tablet device is an MS Surface which runs W10 & Java, that's what I settled on. I'm happy with it overall. Edited December 23, 2015 by paulbates Quote
Amigo Posted December 23, 2015 Author Posted December 23, 2015 Thank you. How do I secure the default UDI ISY web page? I must be missing something but I can't see it anywhere in config tab of admin console, is it HTML role read only? Quote
stusviews Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Once you register and install the portal, you'll be provided with a URL that you can use from anywhere to log into the ISY. Quote
paulbates Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Thank you. How do I secure the default UDI ISY web page? I must be missing something but I can't see it anywhere in config tab of admin console, is it HTML role read only? Accessing HAD & Security: Its always secured by the ISY.. you have to give its credentials to get access to the pages. For more recent firmwares, you can turn HAD on or off by accessing the ISY's Web page, Settings and Default UI. You'll get a "generic version" of the pages that can be customized. Modifying HAD: Do you have the Network Module? Configuring and loading HAD is under Networking / web page. If you read through the HAD wiki & forum, you'll see where me and others got great support from Benoit Mercier, the author of HAD, on how to customize it. Ultimately, copying files onto the ISY using the admin console gets tedious. After you get used to changing HAD on the ISY, there are directions in the forum for running it off of another lan web server. I use my NAS's web server to host the pages. Edited December 23, 2015 by paulbates Quote
Amigo Posted December 23, 2015 Author Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Accessing HAD & Security: Its always secured by the ISY.. you have to give its credentials to get access to the pages. For more recent firmwares, you can turn HAD on or off by accessing the ISY's Web page, Settings and Default UI. You'll get a "generic version" of the pages that can be customized. Modifying HAD: Do you have the Network Module? Configuring and loading HAD is under Networking / web page. If you read through the HAD wiki & forum, you'll see where me and others got great support from Benoit Mercier, the author of HAD, on how to customize it. Ultimately, copying files onto the ISY using the admin console gets tedious. After you get used to changing HAD on the ISY, there are directions in the forum for running it off of another lan web server. I use my NAS's web server to host the pages. Ok, I will look around and try to figure out how ISY secures HAD. I did not see anything in config tab of admin console that sticks out. And I do not see a section called "Networking / web page" Using 5.02 UI and firmware. No network module yet, but I do see UD Ajax and HAD options under settings on the default web page, and I can turn stuff on/off on on this main/default HTML/Web page with no request for login or anything. Sorry for the super newbie questions, just got my ISY. cheers. Edited December 23, 2015 by Amigo Quote
paulbates Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 No Problem, we all started at some point For 4.x or 5.x firmwares, you'll need the Network Module to see the web page option to see the ISY's folders and files. I may not be clear on what you mean by "secure". If you access the ISY default pages or HAD from another system, it will challenge you for the admin account and pw. The ISY file system does not have ACL capabilities that I have seen. You could do that if you looked for the directions for hosting the pages on your own server Paul Quote
Amigo Posted December 23, 2015 Author Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Thank you. By secure I mean the same computer that I run the admin console application from, if I type in the browser the LAN ip address of my ISY I get the default web page, and I can turn stuff on/off with no challenge for credentials. If I run the admin console desktop application it will pop up the login dialog box. But I get no challenge when I simply type in the ISY's LAN IP address directly in browser, it shows the UD Ajax or HAD which ever I chose and I see all my devices, programs, etc. and I can turn stuff on/off. So I don't want anyone just knowing ISY's IP address to be able to control things. My kids will have a hey day turning all the aoetec sirens on/off all day, It must be a cache thing with the browser or something. I will try to figure it out. And what is weird is I don't even have the network module yet, so why would UD Ajax or HAD be accessible by default anyway? cheers. Edited December 23, 2015 by Amigo Quote
jerlands Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 The universal portal login is https://my.isy.io and from there you have a secure login and can access UD Ajax, HAD or the admin console. Jon... Quote
jerlands Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) A couple images of the portal showing options... Jon... Edited December 23, 2015 by jerlands Quote
Amigo Posted December 23, 2015 Author Posted December 23, 2015 Thank you. will try to figure things out and order network module as well as portal. cheers. Quote
paulbates Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) The universal portal login is https://my.isy.io and from there you have a secure login and can access UD Ajax, HAD or the admin console. Jon... Jon I made an inquiry about HAD availability via the portal a while back and Michel indicated it was added to the list, but I don't think its been added yet. EDIT: Kman corrected me, its available now. Paul Edited December 23, 2015 by paulbates Quote
KMan Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Jon I made an inquiry about HAD availability via the portal a while back and Michel indicated it was added to the list, but I don't think its been added yet. Pau HAD is available via the portal ... see Benoit's post here. Quote
paulbates Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 HAD is available via the portal ... see Benoit's post here. Great news Kman, I missed it! Paul Quote
KMan Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 Great news Kman, I missed it! Paul If you blink ... UDI slips in another feature. Now if Amazon would just be as responsive ... Quote
paulbates Posted December 23, 2015 Posted December 23, 2015 If you blink ... UDI slips in another feature. Now if Amazon would just be as responsive ... If things are happening faster than I thought, I'll call it a good day . I might put that post under the tree this year The portal will give me a clean way to access my had pages from my heavily locked down corporate laptop, as well as my tablet, while travelling. I know that the UDI team and Benoit work very hard in the face of multiple responsibilities and a rapidly shifting technical landscape. Quote
jgillam Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 The universal portal login is https://my.isy.io and from there you have a secure login and can access UD Ajax, HAD or the admin console. Jon... I'm able to access the portal on my Mac through the Safari browser so I can setup device alias, etc... but I can't access the portal using my iPad mini. Any advice? -Justin Quote
MWareman Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 I'm able to access the portal on my Mac through the Safari browser so I can setup device alias, etc... but I can't access the portal using my iPad mini. Any advice? -Justin Same here on my Android tablet (with Chrome). Hangs as the screenshot after authentication... Quote
jerlands Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Same here on my Android tablet (with Chrome). Hangs as the screenshot after authentication... I'm accessing it on Samsung S4 running Android 5.0.1 Jon... Quote
Jimbo.Automates Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Same here on Nexus 6P. When the portal was first released it worked fine, but I haven't tried from Android in a while. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Quote
MWareman Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Same here on Nexus 6P. When the portal was first released it worked fine, but I haven't tried from Android in a while. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Glad to see I'm not the only one. I've confirmed I'm not blocking JavaScript from executing on the portal. Quote
Michel Kohanim Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Hello all, Thanks you. We'll take a look. With kind regards, Michel Quote
bmercier Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Hello, I'm trying to reproduce the problem, without much success. I'm trying on Android native browser, chrome on android, chrome on ios, safari on iOS. All worked. I need help reproducing the problem. I think there must be a javascript error on the browser console. Can someone with the problem try the following: - Connect a mobile device to the PC using a USB cable - Start chrome on the mobile device - On the PC, start chrome as well, and go to: chrome://inspect (this will start the remote debugger) - Still on the PC, when connected to the mobile device, go to the console tab. - On the mobile device, go to my.isy.login, and login - Assuming you still have the problem, please look at console (on the PC), and please PM me a screen shot of the error(s). Thanks, Benoit Quote
MWareman Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) Hello, I'm trying to reproduce the problem, without much success. I'm trying on Android native browser, chrome on android, chrome on ios, safari on iOS. All worked. I need help reproducing the problem. I think there must be a javascript error on the browser console. Can someone with the problem try the following: - Connect a mobile device to the PC using a USB cable - Start chrome on the mobile device - On the PC, start chrome as well, and go to: chrome://inspect (this will start the remote debugger) - Still on the PC, when connected to the mobile device, go to the console tab. - On the mobile device, go to my.isy.login, and login - Assuming you still have the problem, please look at console (on the PC), and please PM me a screen shot of the error(s). Thanks, Benoit Benoit, What Android version are you using to test? I'm on a Nexus 9, 6.0.1. I'll setup the remote debugger when I get to the office (traveling now...) Also, a poster above reported an access issue with his iPad mini - don't know if its the same issue though. (Edit: Just tried Safari and Chrome on my iPad 9.0.2 and it worked fine in both). Michael. Edited January 15, 2016 by MWareman Quote
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