stusviews Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 The Z-Wave number assignment is not random nor is the ISY involved. It's a characteristic of Z-Wave to use the next sequential number after the last assignment. Once a device number has been assigned, it is not reused even if devices have been excluded and then included.
bmarsh Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Yup... This number business is a PITA all right. And the real pain would come when for whatever reason you have to replace the controller... I guess you would then have to exclude ALL your devices and then include ALL your devices again, and then rename them. As I had to do today when I switched my ISY to check to make sure the new Z-wave module I added was working correctly. However, I am learning. I have a couple of GE remotes which look really nice if I can use them. However, the first thing I did when I got the remote and a Z-device was to plug in the device and include it to the remote. Worked just fine... however I haven't been able to re-assign that device to the ISY. I've tried to exclude it on the remote and stood on my head a whistled dixie... but I still can't get the ISY to see it... Will try to exclude it from the ISY and see if that makes a difference. If not, I guess I need to really, really dig into the remote to see if I have excluded it properly. All of this makes me not want to deal with Z-wave.... I decided to try Z-wave because the Insteon stuff didn't seem all that reliable, particularly when my PLM gave out and I learned that it went out right on schedule along with all the other two-year old PLMs. Not good... but I was able to rebuild it using the parts listed elsewhere on this forum so I guess I am by that problem..
bmarsh Posted January 15, 2016 Posted January 15, 2016 Can anyone here point us Newbies to a document which describes how Z-wave works with relation to controllers? I see mention of primary and secondary controllers but haven't seen that discussed in any of my literature/instructions... and can you have more than one or two controllers?? I have a driveway alarm system (self contained) with two units... I have provided each unit with a Z-wave on-off device so that's two devices. I currently have those two included on the ISY994 and that works fine. What I would like to do is include these two Z-wave on-off devices as a group on two different remotes. Thus the alarm could be turned off by either remote or the ISY. Can this be done? So far I am thinking it can't, which is a big minus over using Insteon. Would like to learn more about inclusion/exclusion and controllers... but there is scant information out on the web it seems.
Michel Kohanim Posted January 17, 2016 Posted January 17, 2016 Hi bmarsh, The reason is that this configuration is not very ubiquitous. What you have to take into consideration is: 1. Which device do you want to act as the Primary. Primary is in charge of all node addresses and routing optimization. You need to choose a Primary that covers all your devices 2. Once you figure out the primary, then you need to create your network using the primary 3. Once that's done, you can use Z-Wave functions (Learn) to incorporate the primary into another controller With kind regards, Michel
Deane Johnson Posted January 17, 2016 Author Posted January 17, 2016 Now I'm excited about ISY as a Z-Wave controller. I rebuilt my Z-Wave Network one device at a time using ISY as the Primary. Very stable and well mannered. As I rebuilt it, I tested the Network's response time with each additional Device. Low and behold, two of the Leviton dimmers each created the significant slow down in execution, on the order of 5 to 10 seconds per network device. I did a factory reset on one of them with no improvement. I had a spare available for the second one and the spare cured the issue on that one. So, I'll get another new one for the other node from Amazon next week. Meantime, my Z-Wave with ISY as Primary is performing very well with CQC. ISY is probably the best performing Primary Controller I've used yet. I was looking for a pathway away from the Leviton RFIT and VRC0P, and I found it.
Guitartexan Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 I tried Leviton when I first started and had several problems. I switched to Enerwave devices and I have been happy with the performance. I have had two out of 37 go bad in a year and they were covered by Enerwave. GT
bmarsh Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 In answer to Michel.... Ok, ISY is going to be my Z-Wave primary... and it controls (at the moment) all of my Insteon and Z-wave devices. But I have these two GE remotes which I would also like to use to control Z-wave as secondary. But it seems that when I put them into SETUP mode (there is no learn mode that I can tell) and then press the single button on the Z-wave device... Nothing happens. It appears that once the device has been paired with a primary, it no longer sends any signal except the on/off indication.
Michel Kohanim Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 Hi bmarsh, Remotes are multi-channel and should be supported shortly. With kind regards, Michel
asbril Posted March 14, 2016 Posted March 14, 2016 Other than Deane's experience, can anyone else comment on Cooper ZWave switches. I read that the Cooper Aspire RF Model: 3-Way Accessory Switch allows for 3-way without a Traveler cable. Has anyone tried this and/or have experience with Cooper switches (to work with ISY994) ?
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