Controlling 8 Button Keypad

[rskirch]

Hey folks,

  I tried looking around, but i can't find anything that sheds some light on my problem in the forums or through experimentation.  I have an 8 button KPL in a room.  Buttons 2,4,6 are High, Medium, and Low for a fan.  Button 8 is off for that fan.  This is all programmed and 2,4,6,8 are grouped mutually exclusive.  So If you press 4 you get a medium fan and only 4 is lit.  All is great when the buttons are manually pushed.  i also have a motion sensor in the room, and I turn off the fan after 15 minutes of inactivity.  The problem is I cannot reset the buttons programmatically.  I cannot set the pushed button as number 8.  Any advice?

[EricK]

I'm not exactly sure what you are asking and how you have the MS set up to turn the fan off. If you want button H to turn off then you have to create a scene (ex: "Fan Off button H") with button H as a responder. Then set the "Fan Off button H" scene off when the fan is turned off. If you want the button on when the fan is turned off, then set that scene on.

[paulbates]

Hey folks,

  I tried looking around, but i can't find anything that sheds some light on my problem in the forums or through experimentation.  I have an 8 button KPL in a room.  Buttons 2,4,6 are High, Medium, and Low for a fan.  Button 8 is off for that fan.  This is all programmed and 2,4,6,8 are grouped mutually exclusive.  So If you press 4 you get a medium fan and only 4 is lit.  All is great when the buttons are manually pushed.  i also have a motion sensor in the room, and I turn off the fan after 15 minutes of inactivity.  The problem is I cannot reset the buttons programmatically.  I cannot set the pushed button as number 8.  Any advice?

 

 

To manipulate the keypad keys, you need to add the button(s) you want to a scene, and then turn that scene on and off. It's not what you'd expect, but its how it works. A couple of additional considerations

• Turning the button on and off using a scene does only that... it does not activate programs or scenes associated with manually pressing the button...however..
• You can group the devices you are turning on and off with the key in the scene so that one program statement turns them on and off

As an example of the second bullet, I have my attic fan and dampers controlled by 3 keys on three different keypads in different locations. In one scene, I have the the three keypad keys as controllers, and the dampers and the fan as responders. The scene totally manages the dampers, fan and keys ...on and off, no program is required. 

 

Paul

[rskirch]

Thanks Paul,  that led me in the right direction.  So that anyone in the future wants the breakdown of what I did let me elaborate.

 

So here is the set up:

One (1) 8 Button Keypad Dimmer Switch (Insteon Item 2334-222) attached to a set of bathroom can lights and a ceiling fan. (This is a wacky setup, but I had no choice based on the wiring)  Button 1 is the power button for everything (Keypad, Lights, Fan) so it has to stay on at all times.

1 Fanlinc (Insteon item 2475F) controlling the fan and light attached (separate from the can lights)

1 Wireless Motion Sensor (Insteon Item 2842-222)

 

 I made buttons 2,4,6,8 grouped mutually exclusive and mapped them programatically to Off ( 8 ), Low Fan (6) Med Fan (4), High Fan (2).  Button 3 is mapped to the fan light.  So when everything is off, button 1 and 8 are lit (1 is technically on, but 8 being lit or on represents the fan being off.  I have a scene that basically sets the on-levels for all the button to match the above configuration (1 and 8 on and everything else off)

 

So if i turned on the fan to medium and the fan light on, buttons 1 (again, always on), 3, and 4 would be lit representing those states of on and medium. I have a program that watches the off event of the sensor after x minutes.  If I left the room, after x minutes the program would shut off the fan and turn off the fan light, but to have the buttons match that state, the sensor program also turns on the above scene to make the buttons that are lit and not lit match the state of the devices they are controlling.  I hope this makes sense

[Guitartexan]

It does make sense, rskirch, and thanks for the information.

 

 

GT