simple control, reservations and slooplinc's confusion

[sloop]

oh no - another rambling sloop thread

 

isy994

isy portal

mobilinc

echos

alexa portal

ecobee thermostats

alexa portal to ecobee

ipads, android phones

sonos, but not linked to the isy

 

and now - I added simple control for an interface to it all - or trying to add simple control (was roomie)

 

simple control says life is better for them with reservations for ip addresses - I did not when I first tested the simple control hub, but now have them set up

 

isy - 192.168.0.254

simple control hub - 192.168.0.253

 

confessions - the initial setup without the reservations - ipads had a different e/mail account, though that was changed - simple sync and simple service has a problem (account mixup I suppose - good luck getting support from simple control)

 

however - simple sync should not be involved in my problem:  connecting the simple control app to the isy

 

looks like a credential problem

 

System -170001 [Auth:-10104] 192.168.0.19:52390->80, Num=3
System -170001 [Auth:-10104] 192.168.0.19:52402->80, Num=4

 

gave simple control port 80 - tried 443 too

 

what am I missing?

 

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi slooplinc,

 

Definitely authorization related. You need to figure out how to include Basic Authorization headers in your requests to ISY.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[graciesmith]

I agree with Michel, you need to figure out how and what to include in ISY.

[BamBamF16]

When I added my ISY to simple it was very easy. Select from discovered list. Add username and password. Load manifest. Add owns to activities as desired.

[sloop]

thanks all  - mine was not in the discovery - but simple control got my account straightened out - and it is there now - i'll work on the authentication this weekend

[sloop]

have to say - do NOT expect support from simple control - now no one expects support that would equal ud - but simple control is completely awol

 

(their 'forum' is heavily moderated and support rarely visits - I did find a massive roomie thread on avs - and several have commented on the ud forum and support being world class)

 

in any event - for the roomie people:

 

I still have a problem with their hub and sync - so while waiting on the weekly email from support telling me to post yet another diagnostic, I decided to move on with my setup - and the lack of information means tons of trial and error - hoping someone can point me in the right direction

 

got the isy to be in the device discovery list - got the authorization to go through - decided to add a test scene - or I wanted to - the manifest lists about 800 devices - NONE OF WHICH ARE SCENES???

 

it would be a slick interface to an automated home - select a room to operate on and everything available is listed

 

oh - their wifi blaster - selected the network on ipad - opened the browser - selected wifi network - did not connect - reset blaster - now no web page is displayed

 

maybe I should have gone with itach instead

Edited April 10, 2016 by sloop

[sloop]

speaking of a sloop rambling thread...portal concepts

 

echo to amazon

     (amazon parses for keywords and passes a command to ud portal if applicable)

ud formatted command back to the isy?  or  ud formatted command back to amazon?

 

I'm betting its ud portal to the isy - which makes me wonder about acknowledgments - I suppose ud sends one back to amazon that passes it to the echo - unless the echo 'ok' is send in response to successful delivery of the command to ud - if not its successful execution of the command by ud - has to be some kind of success by amazon because if the isy is not online, echo tells you

 

anyway - I have scenes out the - I have tons of scenes - because even one lamp has at least a button to control it - each room has a scene that sets every light in the room, along with all the buttons for those lamp scenes - while the echo works well - really well - saying 'the master bedroom left bedside lamp' is getting pretty formulaic - newspeak as it were

 

so I only have my room scenes defined to the echos - which is good enough - but I'd love for the echo to have an awareness of the room it is in - if amazon would pass the echo device id to ud, it could sure lessen the instructions on how to operate the echo

 

command from amazon to ud 'den echo sends set den sofa lamp to on' could be 'den ech sends set lamp to on - while 'bedroom echo sends set lamp to on' would operate the bedside lamp - 'turn the lights on' would have different commands based on the location (device id) of the echo

 

which would necessitate me setting up each echo on the ud portal - small price for me - not sure what the overhead would be on the ud portal (I will have 6 or 7 echos)

 

just a thought - be interesting to know the concept

 

AND

 

a HUGE THANKS TO UD for the tight coupling with echo - it makes it usable - skills are worthless to me - talk about formulaic speech - ud and ecobee did it right

 

wish simple control and sonos would do the same

[sloop]

and portals - I'm wondering when I will be portaling to portals unsolicited and portals unknown - I mean - amazon, ud, ecobee and I suppose simple control - wonder if i am portaling to portals via portals unintended - and my unwelcome, intrusive portaling is raising the ire of portals - I have noticed the tone adopted by alexa is a bit snippy lately

 

sigh

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi sloop,

 

What you need to do is to have multiple Amazon accounts and multiple ISY Portal accounts:

http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY_Portal_Amazon_Echo_Integration#Instructions_for_using_Multiple_Echos_Connected_Home

 

Then you put a DOT or Echo in each room tied to specific Amazon Accounts.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[stusviews]

I'm currently using four Amazon accounts, three Echos, two Dots with a Dot on order (Aug 3rd delivery). I could really use more than three wake words.

[sloop]

can each echo control every device?

[stusviews]

can each echo control every device?

 

Yes and no, but that was the goal. For example, from the computer room (which is in the corner of an L-shaped room configuration), I can control the living room, kitchen and dining room lights by naming them and control the the room I'm in by just the word, "light." But from the living room, I use, "light," for the living room light and "computer room" for that rooms light. Same thing in the dining room or bedroom, i just use, "light," when in each respective room and name the room if I'm not in it.

 

Not every device, scene or program is available from every room. I really don't need need control of the bedroom lights, fan, thermostat or window coverings when I'm in the living room nor vice-versa. However, it's easy enough too add something if I find the need. I do have to use different wake words for any Echo or Dot within earshot. I really need more wake words.

 

The next room to get the Dot is the kitchen. My wife loves both the weather report and the timer

[BamBamF16]

Sloop, PM me your issues and maybe I can help. I set mine up very quickly with limited issues.

 

Jeff