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Outletlinc issue


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Have a outletlinc that i use in my kids room. Its on a time program. In isy it shows on but outlet is off and sometime the only way to turn it on is manually. Isy wont turn it on, it will just show that it is on. Any ideas?

 

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Is the OutletLinc being managed with a Scene or a Direct command?

 

Could be a comm issue, particularly if using a Scene.   If using a Scene try a Direct command.

 

Could also be a defective OutletLinc.

 

Run the Event Viewer at LEVEL 3.   Turn the OutletLinc On and Off with a Direct command and post the trace. 

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Are there electronics like a TV or phone chargers plugged into the outletlinc? If you are using the outletlinc to control electronics, you'll most likely need a filterlinc plugged in between the outlet and devices. I've found outletlincs to be more sensitive to noise from loads than other insteon devices.

 

A way to validate this theory is to unplug the load from the outletlinc and then retry the program / ISY control.

 

Paul

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As Lee pointed out, it could be line noise closer to the outletlinc, or something wrong with the outletlinc iteslf

 

You could try a factory reset, followed by a restore device. If that doesn't fix it, try the event trace.

 

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here is the log from event viewer

 

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:34 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 17 9C C1 0F 13 00

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:34 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 17.9C.C1 0F 13 00 06          LTOFFRR(00)

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:35 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 17.9C.C1 22.FF.68 2B 13 00    LTOFFRR(00)

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:35 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 17.9C.C1-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=2

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:35 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [17 9C C1 1] [ERR] [0] uom=0 prec=-1

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:35 PM : [  17 9C C1 1]      ERR   0

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:35 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [17 9C C1 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:35 PM : [  17 9C C1 1]       ST   0

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:46 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 17 9C C1 0F 11 FF

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:46 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 17.9C.C1 0F 11 FF 06          LTONRR (FF)

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:46 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 17.9C.C1 22.FF.68 27 11 FF    LTONRR (FF)

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:46 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 17.9C.C1-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:46 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [17 9C C1 1] [sT] [255] uom=0 prec=-1

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:46 PM : [  17 9C C1 1]       ST 255

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:51 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 17 9C C1 0F 13 00

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:51 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 17.9C.C1 0F 13 00 06          LTOFFRR(00)

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:52 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 17.9C.C1 22.FF.68 27 13 00    LTOFFRR(00)

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:52 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 17.9C.C1-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:52 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [17 9C C1 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:52 PM : [  17 9C C1 1]       ST   0

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:53 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 17 9C C1 0F 13 00

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:53 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 17.9C.C1 0F 13 00 06          LTOFFRR(00)

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:57 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [17 9C C1 1] [ERR] [1] uom=0 prec=-1

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:57 PM : [  17 9C C1 1]      ERR   1
 

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The next to last Off command worked.  The last Off command did not get response from device.

 

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:51 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 17 9C C1 0F 13 00 - this Off command received device response

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:51 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 17.9C.C1 0F 13 00 06          LTOFFRR(00)

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:52 PM : [iNST-SRX    ] 02 50 17.9C.C1 22.FF.68 27 13 00    LTOFFRR(00)

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:52 PM : [std-Direct Ack] 17.9C.C1-->ISY/PLM Group=0, Max Hops=3, Hops Left=1

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:52 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [17 9C C1 1] [sT] [0] uom=0 prec=-1

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:52 PM : [  17 9C C1 1]       ST   0

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:53 PM : [iNST-TX-I1  ] 02 62 17 9C C1 0F 13 00 - this Off command got no response from device

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:53 PM : [iNST-ACK    ] 02 62 17.9C.C1 0F 13 00 06          LTOFFRR(00)

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:57 PM : [D2D EVENT   ] Event [17 9C C1 1] [ERR] [1] uom=0 prec=-1

Mon 05/23/2016 02:21:57 PM : [  17 9C C1 1]      ERR   1
 

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In the room there is a ceiling fan light, which was off. A tv and dvd player both plugged in and off. Plugged into outletlinc is a led night light. Thats it for the room and that circuit

 

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Unfortunately devices like a TV and DVD have electronics that are powered even when devices are Off.  Both TV an DVD respond to IR signals to turn the devices On.   Need to unplug devices to eliminate them as sources of interference. 

 

Also the circuit that provides power to OutletLinc is likely powering other devices in other rooms.

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Its not, i rewired the house and each room is on it's own circuit. I will disconnect the tv n dvd player. Never had this issue a few months ago. Been installed in the room for about 3 years

 

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Also ensure that nothing is powered by that circuit, not even the night light. If the ceiling light is powered from an Insteon device, then pull out the set button until it clicks in place (i.e, stays out).

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That's a power line only device which suggests something on that circuit is interfering with communication. You need to unplug or disconnect everything else on that circuit including anything plugged into that outlet. Turning something off isn't adequate.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Unplugged the tv and dvd player. Plugged them into a extension cord and plugged back in and seams to be working gd lol

 

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It should be noted that many if not all electronics over time will start to become a noise maker / signal sucker. The sad fact is we no longer live in the good old 50 - 80's where companies made things to last and were based on quality components and at the time sound engineering. 

 

So the reality is (IF) you ever find a product that is made solid and offers you more than 5 years of service. Keep buying and supporting these companies because they haven't forgotten how things should be made.

 

NOTE: People should never confuse a product being made in China as the final indicator of over all quality and lifespan. Quality is dictated by the company who is trying to meet a defined out the door price point and profit margin.

 

One only has to look at (generally speaking) Apple product . . . They are some of the best in class built, designed, and made hardware on the planet. Yet they are also one of the most bloated priced items known to man which cater to people who believe there is true value in the product.

 

Tens of thousands of quality products are made in China every day. The only reason they are is because the company has decided to use the highest quality components, design, and hardware in hopes of the quality will reflect better on their name brand.

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Ok ill see whats interfering, never had this issue in the beginning. Just figures everything is starting to go at the same time lol

 

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FilterLinc!

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