Console Java woes

[jtara92101]

It seems UDI's dependence on Java has become a bit of an albatross. With the latest updates of Java and Chrome, I am unable to access the console.

 

I know this topic has been addressed here many times over the past few years, but the answers don't seem to solve the problem.

 

I've seen suggestions to update the firmware, but I have no way to do that - Catch 22! 

 

I am able to access the web interface (after messing around with java settings to allow it) but not the console. It claims I need to update Java, but I already have the latest version (version 8, update 91)

 

BTW, since I've recently moved it's fine if I have to do a reset of my device to install new firmware - but I need to know how to do it!

 

Already set my device address in the exceptions list.

 

I downloaded the admin console. When I open it I get:

 

Application Block by Java Security

 

For security, applications must now meet the requirements for the High or Very High security settings, or be part of the Exception Site List, to be allowed to run.

 

  [More Information]

 

Reason: Your security settings have blocked an application signed with an expired or not-yet-valid certificate from running.

 

My Java security setting is set to High (not Very High). There are no other choices.

 

Particulars:

 

isy994i

OSX El Capitan 10.11.5

Chrome/Safari but willing to use any browser that will work

[jtara92101]

My Java security setting is set to High. The only other setting available is Very High.

[jtara92101]

Now works. I had to download the Admin Console directly from the UDI website. Using the link on the device interface gives me a version of the Admin Console that won't work with current Java security.

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi jtara92101,

 

Java applets/applications are signed and they have expiration dates. So, when the certificate expires, then the system should NOT allow you to use it.

 

It's always best to use:

http://isy.universal-devices.com/994i/admin.jnlp

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[rickjohn]

This isn't installing for me. I get an application error "Unable to launch application"

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi rickjohn,

 

That's very odd. Please do be kind enough to submit a ticket and we'd be delighted to help figure out the issue.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[Brandon]

Since Java seems to be going the way of the dodo bird and browsers are dropping support, what is the UD's plan for the future of Java's use in the administration of the ISY devices?

 

[Michel Kohanim]

Brandon,

 

The application has nothing to do with browser support. You can always use http://isy.universal-devices.com/994i/admin.jnlp which puts an icon on your desktop and which is browser independent.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[Brandon]

Yes, but what about the fact that many applications are no longer being written in Java and/or being converted to other platforms, like HTML5? 

And what about the rumors that even Oracle is losing interesting in continuing its support for Java?

[Michel Kohanim]

Brandon,

 

There are a lot of what ifs in your questions. We do have plan to migrate away from Java.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[fastbird1]

I have an ISY at a remote location.  How do I open the admin console when Java Application Blocked. It says "expired or not-yet-valid certificate".  For instance to get to the remote site i use: http://cabb15.mine.sample/WEB/udajax.htm . I have tried http://isy.universal...994i/admin.jnlp  but that brings up the local instance, not the remote location?

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi fastbird,

 

1. Please install the latest UI on your desktop: http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=Main_Page#Admin_Console_Icon_on_Your_Desktop

2. Double click on the icon

3. In ISY Finder, click on the Add button

4. Enter the remote URL for your remote ISY

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[stevesreed]

I'm no sure if this is the right spot, but I could not find a separate discussion about the desktop icon.

 

Is there a higher resolution version of the admin console icon available could use? The console is the only lowers/blocky icon on my Dock, and it really sticks out.
 

 

 

 

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi stevesreed,

 

Unfortunately not. I am so sorry.

 

With kind regards,

Michel