mmoore99 Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Does the ISY994i work with the Insteon siren, part number 2868-222. I didn't see it in the pull down list of Insteon devices. If not supported, is there another siren that would work?
Techman Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Does the ISY994i work with the Insteon siren, part number 2868-222. I didn't see it in the pull down list of Insteon devices. If not supported, is there another siren that would work? Unfortunately NO. However it will most likely be supported in the ISY version 5.x firmware release.
stusviews Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Does the ISY994i work with the Insteon siren, part number 2868-222. I didn't see it in the pull down list of Insteon devices. If not supported, is there another siren that would work? The Aeon Gen5 siren is currently supported.
Brian H Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) No. Both the 2867-222 Alert Module and 2868-222 Siren Module are not supported at the present time. I understand the Alert Module will be in the 5.? Firmware. I would think the Siren Module would also be in the 5.0? I did try adding my Siren Module with the Start Linking method. I got the "Failed To Add Device Reason 1" as expected. I believe the Aeon Gen5 siren is Z-Wave so you would have to have a Z-Wave option ISY Interface. Edited December 1, 2016 by Brian H
stusviews Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 If UDI had the API for either the Alert or Siren Modules, it'd be in a version 4 update. 1
Brian H Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 I have seen posts. They do have information but it will not be added until a version of 5 is released.
stusviews Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 I have seen posts. They do have information but it will not be added until a version of 5 is released. Do you have a link that indicates that UDI has the API?
Teken Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Do you have a link that indicates that UDI has the API? I don't recall which thread it was but Michel noted they will not include support for Alert Module in the 4.XX branch. As I understand it they believe there is only two more Alpha trials to go before 5.XX goes into Beta. It was stated 4.XX branch has come to the end and they really wanted to move forward with all the extra features of 5.XX. As always what that means in human (time) terms could be anyone's guess. As 5.XX has been going on for more than two years . . . 1
Teken Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 This is the most recent thread from both Michel and Chris: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/18440-help-is-required-insteon-alert-module-error/?hl=%2Balert+%2Bmodule
G W Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 I don't recall which thread it was but Michel noted they will not include support for Alert Module in the 4.XX branch. As I understand it they believe there is only two more Alpha trials to go before 5.XX goes into Beta. It was stated 4.XX branch has come to the end and they really wanted to move forward with all the extra features of 5.XX. As always what that means in human (time) terms could be anyone's guess. As 5.XX has been going on for more than two years . . . Since UDI is now in 5.0.7 and Chris has indicated only 5.0.x, that leaves .8 and. 9 so hopefully moving forward afterwards. It's only logical. I'm Gary Funk. Pay no attention to this message.
stusviews Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 This is the most recent thread from both Michel and Chris: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/18440-help-is-required-insteon-alert-module-error/?hl=%2Balert+%2Bmodule I don't disagree, but nothing in that link specifies that UDI has the API for either the Alert Module or the Siren unless the firmware (which is mentioned) is equivalent to the API (which is not mentioned).
Teken Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 I don't disagree, but nothing in that link specifies that UDI has the API for either the Alert Module or the Siren unless the firmware (which is mentioned) is equivalent to the API (which is not mentioned). Post 13 & 16 from both Michel and Chris allude to the fact they do have the API. But will not incorporate the Alert Module into the 4.XX branch. Regarding the Insteon Siren I don't pretend to know if the API is completely different or the same. No mention from the UDI team has indicated when this new module will be supported or where. If I was to guess it too will be included into the 5.XX branch as 4.XX will be deprecated moving forward.
stusviews Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Post 13 & 16 from both Michel and Chris allude to the fact they do have the API. But will not incorporate the Alert Module into the 4.XX branch. Regarding the Insteon Siren I don't pretend to know if the API is completely different or the same. No mention from the UDI team has indicated when this new module will be supported or where. If I was to guess it too will be included into the 5.XX branch as 4.XX will be deprecated moving forward. Neither post specifically mentions or even alludes to the API. Post #9 mentions the "firmware" so I'll ask again, is the firmware equivalent to the API?
Teken Posted December 1, 2016 Posted December 1, 2016 Neither post specifically mentions or even alludes to the API. Post #9 mentions the "firmware" so I'll ask again, is the firmware equivalent to the API? The API & Firmware are not the same when speaking about this topic. The firmware UDI states in that specific thread pertains to the ISY which contains the API commands to include the Alert Module. As you correctly noted there has been no mention in any forum thread that UDI has obtained the API for the newly released Insteon siren to include it the ISY firmware. Clear as mud?
stusviews Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 The API & Firmware are not the same when speaking about this topic. The firmware UDI states in that specific thread pertains to the ISY which contains the API commands to include the Alert Module. As you correctly noted there has been no mention in any forum thread that UDI has obtained the API for the newly released Insteon siren to include it the ISY firmware. Clear as mud? Thanks for the confirmation
ggdowski Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Wow. This is very disappointing. I have also had this device in a box for almost an entire year. Insteon has come out with a new device.
Michel Kohanim Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Hello All, We added support in 5.0.x but due to API issues, it doesn't work properly. We juat got the updated APIs from SmartHome last week. With kind regards, Michel 1
larryllix Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Hello All, We added support in 5.0.x but due to API issues, it doesn't work properly. We juat got the updated APIs from SmartHome last week. With kind regards, Michel Nice! Oh look, first typo I have ever seen from Michel! He isn't a bot!
G W Posted December 2, 2016 Posted December 2, 2016 Nice! Oh look, first typo I have ever seen from Michel! He isn't a bot! Maybe that's a sign he's very busy today. I'm Gary Funk and I approved this message.
Michel Kohanim Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 LOL ... I am "juat" ashamed of myself! I took a lot of pride in being considered a bot!!! With kind regards, Michel 3
larryllix Posted December 4, 2016 Posted December 4, 2016 LOL ... I am "juat" ashamed of myself! I took a lot of pride in being considered a bot!!!With kind regards,MichelI have to admit. I looked the word up in as many language dictionaries (Spanish slang?..nope), as I could find, and couldn't think of a better way to bot tle it.
ggdowski Posted December 5, 2016 Posted December 5, 2016 Thanks Michel. It would be nice to see this function working.
darcysabatino Posted December 19, 2016 Posted December 19, 2016 +1 for Insteon Siren 2868-222 support. I just bought 4 of these so it will be a welcomed addition to the ISY994i firmware. I'm currently running 4.5.4 but I'd be willing to dip my toes in the 5.x waters if necessary
ggdowski Posted December 20, 2016 Posted December 20, 2016 Don't dip your toes in that water quite yet.
darcysabatino Posted December 20, 2016 Posted December 20, 2016 Noted! Would be nice if it can be added to the 4.x branch in the meantime...
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