photogeek54 Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 I'm running an ISY994-Z on version 4.5.4 After much time learning how to change its configuration parameters, I have it set up outside in a protected location. It is working fine. Here's what I learned about setting the parameters. Since this is a low power battery operated device, it is designed to only accept commands like query and parameter setting when it is awake. Since the ISY does not queue up commands waiting for it to awake, this can take considerable time. One way to wake it is to walk past it and set off the motion sensor, unfortunately this takes at least 1 minute between commands. opening the back of the sensor accomplished this much more quickly as this sets off the tamper alarm and wakes it to send a message. Motion Sensor retrigger time You can set the motion sensor retrigger time (parameter 5) to 1-255 minutes, longer retrigger times should save some battery. I set mine to 1 min. Realize that the output will actually be on after triggering for about 1 minute 15sec in this case and it will reset for the next trigger only after it sees no motion during that 1min 15sec. If you move, the LED will not flash but the output will not reset for the next trigger until 1min 15sec after the last motion. Sensitivity (parameter 6) default 3 with the sensor 5.5 feet above the floor at the default setting of 3 it detected motion (me walking across the beam) at about 30 feet (as far as I could get in that room). I set the sensitivity to 1 and it still detected motion at about 30 feet. I set the sensitivity to 7 and it detected motion at about 20 feet. This numbering seems backwards to me. I was actually hoping I could set the sensitivity even lower to lessen the likelihood of being triggered by small animals.
Michel Kohanim Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 Hi photogeek54 , Thanks so very much for sharing your experience. May I have your permission to post this to our Wiki? With kind regards, Michel
vadimtk Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Hi photogeek54 , Would you mind sharing how did you include this sensor into your network? The manual says press "Program Switch", but I am not sure what it is
vadimtk Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 For the reference I found this solution "Use a pin to reset the sensor. There's a tiny hole in the bottom."
danbutter Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 How's the humidity sensor on this? Seem to work ok?
Greg Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 As noted above the pin hole in the bottom is the way to get this device to pair. Since I live in the US, my challenge was trying to figure out how to change it from the default of C to F. The instructions tell you that it is config parm 1, but within ISY the only options there are numeric. Changing Parm 1 to 1 made the intended change to the display. Also as noted above the quickest way to get this device to write changes is to open the back cover, or if you leave the back cover off while doing all your configuration changes you can just push the small black button inside to "wake" it, each time you need to write a change. Still in the first hour of operation here, so can't answer the humidity at this point, but it is one of the reason I picked this sensor, as I am planning on deploying it in a bathroom where I plan to have the fan run based on a humidity setting. Will report back my findings in a week or so, as I probably won't get time to check the humidity settings while taking a shower until the weekend. Workdays it is splash and dash.
Greg Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 After posting the above last night, I noticed my Motion Sensor II in my kitchen has stopped working. I don't know if it is related to installing this zwave device or not, but what I ended up having to do was to remove this device for now. The symptoms were that within the administration panel you would never see the Kitchen sensor as on, but the program that I have that turns the lights on and then initiates a wait, would trigger and go directly to the ELSE statement, so it was like was some state update but it was not an ON command. To get everything back to a happy state I first tried just removing the new MonoPrice sensor, but that did not change anything. It took a reboot of the ISY to get everything back up and running. I will try re-installing the ZWave device tonight and see if I have the same issue or not. FYI I am on the 5.0.11b firmware, so if I can reproduce the problem I will be asking if there is something there too.
Greg Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 Happy to report that re-adding the sensor caused no further problems with my motion sensor ii. However, when I placed the moonrise in the bathroom it worked for a few hours then I started getting com errors on the isy console, even with these errors the device seemed to work for a day or so, but now it is no longer turning the lights on and off. I think it may be a distance issue, so I added a zwave switch close to the sensor, but that does not seem to have resolved the issue. I will try running a repair to see if that will solve it.
MWareman Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 Until you run the repair, devices will not learn about new devices that may be repeater capable. So, I wouldn’t expect any improvement until you repair. Watch the event log during the repair to ensure routes are discovered.
Greg Posted January 18, 2018 Posted January 18, 2018 Thanks MWareman After doing some more reading and looking at logs, it appears that there is not a problem with the communications path as much as a timeout. In the manual it says that the sensor remains in (communications) sleep until it detects a change in one of the parameters, at which time it will wake up and broadcast an alarm signal to the network. The message that I am receiving is basically saying that it can't communicate with the device, so I am guessing ISY is looking for a heartbeat from the device, but the device is not talking to the ISY until it has something to say or a specified time period, which I would guess is longer than the ISY heartbeat check. The manual goes onto say that this period can be changed in the WAKE UP command class. Since I am new to the ZWave side of things, so far I have figured out how to change the parameters that are listed, and I would need to add the device again to see if I see a WAKE UP parameter. I don't see one listed in the documentation only that there is a command class of WAKE UP. If there is some way that I don't know about please let me know to save me a bunch of time trying to find it on my own. Greg
Jimbo.Automates Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 Setting the wakup is on each device with later versions of the 5 firmware. Not sure if it can be done with 4. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Greg Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 On 11b, will poke around this weekend to see if I can find it.
Greg Posted January 22, 2018 Posted January 22, 2018 Update from this weekend. The Wake parameter is on the "Notify Sensor" page. The way this command seems to work is the time you specify on the page is the amount of time that ISY will wait until it receives an "Alarm" from the sensor. This alarm can be from any of the parameters you set...change in temp, humidity, light level, motion, or one of the tamper alarms. Depending on how often you think the device will send an alarm is what you want to set this "Wake" parameter to. Since there may be times I am away from the house for a longer period of time...such as when I am on vacation, the motion sensor may not get triggered very often, and since I have heat and A/C, the temp inside the house may not get change much, the same with the humidity. If this sensor was on an interior room, the light sensor may not even get triggered. So this seems like a backwards way of doing things. I am lucky in the fact that the sensor will be in a room that does have an exterior window, so leaving things at the default settings for light of 10% change I should see a change at least of every 16 hours. I guess that you could trigger another program to turn on the lights in the room every x hours to force it to "Alarm" every x hours. Anyway for now I have set it to 36 hours and will give it another go and see if I start seeing the failure to communicate errors again or not. Greg
Dr Pepper Posted February 4, 2018 Posted February 4, 2018 I just got a Monoprice PIR today. It seems very slow to report changes in temp, humidity and light. While in a dark room with less then 1% lumanence and turning the light on in the room it takes minutes to report the change. The motion seems to be fairly responsive.
Greg Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 I agree that it seems very slow to report changes. Which leads me to believe that even though it states you can set it to report at lower % changes than what the defaults are, that there must be another setting to tell it how frequently to check in, and actually report those changes. Even if you trigger the motion sensor it still will not report other changes until it is good and ready to.
Dr Pepper Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 I agree that it seems very slow to report changes. Which leads me to believe that even though it states you can set it to report at lower % changes than what the defaults are, that there must be another setting to tell it how frequently to check in, and actually report those changes. Even if you trigger the motion sensor it still will not report other changes until it is good and ready to. Exactly. How hard would it be to send the current status of each parameter every time it reports one that changes such as motion? Two of took back to back showers yesterday. The humidity was high in the room. I have it set to turn the fan on at 65% humidity. It never turned on. Yet today the fan is cycling on and off and nobody has taken a shower since this morning. Also noted that I can turn a light on based on motion. Then I have the program wait 4 minutes and turn the light off. The light never goes off. Not sure if its just a bug I have seen mentioned or if its the detector. Had hoped for an inexpensive device like this to use in a few locations in the house. But I dont think I will buy another.
Greg Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 I use three programs to turn the lights on and off. The first one triggers off the the motion sensor: Master_Bath_Motion_On - [iD 001B][Parent 001E] If 'Master_Bathroom / Master_Bath_ZW 008_Motion_Det' Status is On And $Master_Bath_Lockout is 0 Then Set 'Master_Bathroom / Master_Bath_On-Off Power Swit' On Else Wait 7 minutes Set 'Master_Bathroom / Master_Bath_On-Off Power Swit' Off This turns the lights on, and then once motion is no longer detected turns the lights off after 7 minutes....since I left the motion default at 3:30 seconds on the motion detector this gives me a total of about 10.5 minutes of lights on. The next part is the lockout, if the switch is manually turned off, I don't want the detector which may still be in an "ON" state to turn the lights back on so I have this program: M_Bath_Switch_Lockout - [iD 001D][Parent 001E] If 'Master_Bathroom / Master_Bath_On-Off Power Swit' is switched Off Then $Master_Bath_Lockout += 1 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') That then triggers this program: M_Bath_Lockout_Loop - [iD 001C][Parent 001E] If $Master_Bath_Lockout > 0 Then Wait 35 seconds $Master_Bath_Lockout = 0 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Which does not really work with my current settings for this motion detector. I need to go into the ZWave configuration and change the default 3:30 "ON" for motion detection to :30, or I could change this program to "WAIT" 3:35. I just have not changed it yet...this is the same set of programs I use for my Insteon Motion Sensor II in my kitchen who's default timeout for the "ON" state is 30 seconds. Hope this helps for getting the lights to work.
glacier991 Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 When setting parameters on the monoprice sensors, what is the parameter size to be selected? Is there a one size response, or will a "bad" response nullify the effort?
glacier991 Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 I think I got his one on my own. For temp it is param 1, size 1 and value 1. Likely a dumb Q. which is likely how I got it on my own.
glacier991 Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 I have a couple of the "other" Monoprice Motion Sensors, item 15374 - the more rectangular one with the slanted front panel. My problem is that I can set the parameter 1 to 1, because I can get it to show me degrees F, but then after a short while it reverts back to degrees C. I feel as if there is some "cementing" kind of action I may be missing. Anyone else encounter this, or is there something obvious I am not doing here thatI should be?
aliens7 Posted July 20, 2018 Posted July 20, 2018 I was trying to set the temp units from C to F, but it would fail. Found out it has to be in WAKE mode (open the unit & hit the small switch (SW) to wake up the unit when you hit the SET button for setting the parameters (right click on device, go to Z-Wave, then Set Configuration Parameter). Worked for me (1, 1, 1). I see the temp now in the F units (took it a minute or two to get the new temp).
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