Replace inlinelinc with micro dimmer module?

[paulbates]

One of my earliest inlinelincs is slowly going to insteon heaven.  Its tucked in a ceiling box to power a hanging lamp with (3) 8 watt LEDs. There are 3 keypad keys in a scene with the current inlinelinc that turn it on and off and dim it.

 

My question is, for this application, can I replace the dimming inlinelinc with a 2442-222 micro dimmer module? I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, but have never used a micromodule, not sure if there is something else I need to know. They are priced the same but it was a challenge getting the inlinelinc in there, the micromodule will be easier to install.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Insteon-2442-222-Micro-Dimmer-Module/dp/B00B1GHGS6

 

Thanks

Paul

 

 

 

[Brian H]

The only things that I can think of. Is the maximum wattage load that can be controlled.

The Micro Module at 120 VAC is 5 watts min to 100 watts max. I believe the Inlinelinc is 400 watts.

 

Depending on how old the inlinelinc is. It maybe a 120Volt AC power line only model and the Micro Module dimmer is Dual Band.

[paulbates]

Brian-

 

Looks like they upped the specs to 200 watts.  (page 19)

Maximum load 200 Watts Minimum load 5 Watts

My application will be closer to 24 watts

 

The inline link is one of the earliest ones, single band. The fixture is metal, dual band probably won't change things.

 

Thanks,

Paul

[jtara92101]

I don't trust the wattage spec.

 

Previously, it was rated at 200W at 240V, and 100W at "140V".

 

I understand (from the forum only...) that 140V was a typo and was supposed to be 120V.

 

How do we know this isn't another typo?
 

It makes more sense that the rating would change based on line voltage.

 

On the other hand, if you blow it up with a 100W load at 120V, it's on their nickel, since they have published a spec saying 200W.

 

Dual-band probably WILL work through a metal box. There will be enough leakage. 

[stusviews]

I had no difficulty using a Micro dimmer to control four 100W equivalent LED bulbs (16W ea.).

[paulbates]

Thanks Stu, that's what I was looking for.

 

Paul

[larryllix]

Brian-

 

Looks like they upped the specs to 200 watts. (page 19)

Maximum load 200 Watts Minimum load 5 Watts

My application will be closer to 24 watts

 

The inline link is one of the earliest ones, single band. The fixture is metal, dual band probably won't change things.

 

Thanks,

Paul

Yeah but they state the old ratings for 200W...ie Incandescent.

 

Nobody wants to bite off the new bulbs.

 

I would use it though. Incandescents can have surges at 13 times the rated current and last for few cycles. Most cold starts we scoped were form about 4 to 8 times the running current.

 

I have never scoped an LED one, but I would assume the surge only lasts half a cycle while the caps charge, depending on speed of response needed and input current surge supression.

 

Neither style of bulb gives an inductive voltage spike when the contacts break the circuit so the voltage shouldn't be critical at all.

 

Being in ceiling boxes may give some heat problems. I have already burnt out two BR40 bulbs in insulated ceiling pot light fixtures. (and burnt fingers touching them..yeah the faces stay cool but once they drop into your hand?) Not cheap, but costco took all four back, as I had to buy six to replace them, at a cheaper price than the refund, for the four.

[paulbates]

Yeah but they state the old ratings for 200W...ie Incandescent.

 

Nobody wants to bite off the new bulbs.

 

I would use it though. Incandescents can have surges at 13 times the rated current and last for few cycles. Most cold starts we scoped were form about 4 to 8 times the running current.

 

I have never scoped an LED one, but I would assume the surge only lasts half a cycle while the caps charge, depending on speed of response needed and input current surge supression.

 

Neither style of bulb gives an inductive voltage spike when the contacts break the circuit so the voltage shouldn't be critical at all.

 

Being in ceiling boxes may give some heat problems. I have already burnt out two BR40 bulbs in insulated ceiling pot light fixtures. (and burnt fingers touching them..yeah the faces stay cool but once they drop into your hand?) Not cheap, but costco took all four back, as I had to buy six to replace them, at a cheaper price than the refund, for the four.

 

Yeh I wondered about LEDs too Larry, part of the reason I posted. The original inlinelinc made it through incandescents, CFLs and a few years of LEDs.  I can go with the micromodule. 

 

I've not had problems with heat with any of the bulb types

 

Paul