How - 2420m Motion Sensor to turn light off after 5 minutes

[taskman]

Hi,

 

Seems to not be a straight forward as I would think.

Simply wanted to use the sensor to turn the light off if no motion is sensed for 5 minutes.

 

So if the light is "not off" (since it may be on at a percentage) and no motion is sensed for 5 minutes, turn the light off otherwise leave the light as is.

 

So I guess it would need to check every minute or so and reset the timer ok for the 5 minute none movement.

 

I don't want the motion sensor to turn anything "on", just off.

 

Thanks

[MikeB]

I would do it like this:

 

If
       Status  'Light' is not Off
   And Status  'Motion Sensor' is not On

Then
       Wait  4 minutes 
       Set 'Light' Off

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

 

Unless I'm missing something that should be fairly straightforward. Make sure the motion sensor is in ON/OFF mode. This assumes your motion sensor is set for a 1 minute timeout (1+4=5).

[taskman]

Hi,

 

Thanks for the help.

That works - but there are 2 switches to the light so I was looking to see why a scene can't be accessed so it would turn the scene on or off since the scene has both switches as controllers making up that scene.

 

Thanks for any insight....

[taskman]

Hi,

 

Sorry for the missed info in the dropdown.

I didn't see the scenes below all the original listings.

 

You can tell we have many switches....

 

 

Thanks

[Sub-Routine]

Hi,

 

Thanks for the help.

That works - but there are 2 switches to the light so I was looking to see why a scene can't be accessed so it would turn the scene on or off since the scene has both switches as controllers making up that scene.

 

Thanks for any insight....

 

Sorry for the missed info in the dropdown.

I didn't see the scenes below all the original listings.

 

I see you've found it

 

I was already typing so it here goes anyway.

 

You can control the scene instead of the light. Note that when the Motion Sensor activates the scene you can set different levels/rates than the switches use. I made a new scene that doesn't include one of the no-load switches so I can use that for an over-ride.

 

If
       Control 'Kitchen Motion Sensor' is switched Off
   And Control 'Kitchen Motion Sensor' is not switched On
   And Status  'Kitchen South' is Off

Then
       Wait  30 seconds
       Set Scene 'Kitchen Low' On
       Wait  30 seconds
       Set Scene 'Kitchen Low' Off

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

If 'Kitchen South' (a SwitchLinc) is on the program will not turn off the lights.

 

The 'Kitchen Low' scene uses 19 second ramp rates so going in and out often doesn't resemble a strobe light

 

Rand

[taskman]

Hi,

 

I have a complex setup and working at it piece by piece.

 

Had a question though......

 

In setting up switches, ((most of them are 3 ways)(2 switches)) so in that case do you recommend creating scenes for each light that has more than one switch running it so they are both controllers.

 

Basically a scene like:

Kitchen Lights Scene

Kitchen Light A switch (controller)

Kitchen Light B switch (controller)

 

Is that the best way to do it?

 

Thanks

[Michel Kohanim]

Hello taskman,

 

Yes, that's precisely it. And, you need the same switches to also control other lights, simply drag and drop them in the same scene as responders.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

 

Hi,

 

I have a complex setup and working at it piece by piece.

 

Had a question though......

 

In setting up switches, ((most of them are 3 ways)(2 switches)) so in that case do you recommend creating scenes for each light that has more than one switch running it so they are both controllers.

 

Basically a scene like:

Kitchen Lights Scene

Kitchen Light A switch (controller)

Kitchen Light B switch (controller)

 

Is that the best way to do it?

 

Thanks

[taskman]

Hi,

 

Ok, so if the entire scene has just the 2 switches

 

Kitchen Lights Scene

 

Kitchen Light A switch (controller)

Kitchen Light B switch (controller)

 

does it require the same switches as responders also?

 

Kitchen Lights Scene

 

Kitchen Light A switch (controller)

Kitchen Light B switch (controller)

Kitchen Light A switch (responder)

Kitchen Light B switch (responder)

 

or does it require 2 seperate scenes, one with the controllers and the other with the responders?

 

Thanks

 

Also....

1 - Where are the IR commands stored?

2 - Can I use the ones we have from Global Cache?

[Sub-Routine]

Hi,

 

Ok, so if the entire scene has just the 2 switches

 

Kitchen Lights Scene

 

Kitchen Light A switch (controller)

Kitchen Light B switch (controller)

 

does it require the same switches as responders also?

 

Kitchen Lights Scene

 

Kitchen Light A switch (controller)

Kitchen Light B switch (controller)

Kitchen Light A switch (responder)

Kitchen Light B switch (responder)

 

or does it require 2 seperate scenes, one with the controllers and the other with the responders?

 

Thanks

 

No, it's not necessary to have two scenes. Controllers that can be responders (switches) are automatically responders.

 

It is also possible to make another scene where the switches are only responders. This is useful when you would like the ISY to control the scene using a program, like for your motion sensor or a scheduled action.

 

Switches can be responders in hundreds of scenes but can only be controllers in one scene.

 

Also....

1 - Where are the IR commands stored?

 

On the Configuration pane there is an IR tab.

 

2 - Can I use the ones we have from Global Cache?

 

I am not familiar with Global Cache.

 

Rand

[taskman]

I have them in a .txt file so I can do whatever I want with them.

 

Seems there are many companies that use the Global Cache devices for networking actions and the IR is one of them.

 

 

It seems that most of the remotes I have like Sony, etc do not record but for a couple. But I have them all on a text file so I can import that file or copy some lines. I just don't know where ISY stores there IR codes.

 

Maybe I need to convert the codes I have for it to work. There are over 150 of them soit will be good if I can get them to work, or at least some of them.

 

Thanks