Controlling the Insteon 2441 thermostat ...

[gweempose]

I just installed a 2441 thermostat yesterday. It's working great, and I'm able to control it with my voice, but I'm trying to figure out what exactly can and can't be done via the Echo. Does anyone have a list of all the voice commands that can be used to control this thermostat? I'm hoping there is a way to change the fan from "auto" to "always on" using the Echo. If this function is not directly supported, I assume I will have to set up some sort of program and trigger it indirectly from a scene.

[larryllix]

I just installed a 2441 thermostat yesterday. It's working great, and I'm able to control it with my voice, but I'm trying to figure out what exactly can and can't be done via the Echo. Does anyone have a list of all the voice commands that can be used to control this thermostat? I'm hoping there is a way to change the fan from "auto" to "always on" using the Echo. If this function is not directly supported, I assume I will have to set up some sort of program and trigger it indirectly from a scene.

The echo verb list is very limited to basic words. You'll need a program to operate the mode changes.

[gweempose]

The echo verb list is very limited to basic words. You'll need a program to operate the mode changes.

 

Cool, which brings me to my next question. How do I control programs from the Echo? I've never done this. Can I control them directly, or do I have to use scenes?

[larryllix]

Programs are in the pulldown menu in the ISY Portal.

 

Verbal on runs Then, Verbal Off runs Else

 

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[gweempose]

Programs are in the pulldown menu in the ISY Portal.

 

Verbal on runs Then, Verbal Off runs Else

 

Thanks for the info! I don't know why I forgot about this. I already have programs that I've been controlling this way for a while ... 

[larryllix]

Thanks for the info! I don't know why I forgot about this. I already have programs that I've been controlling this way for a while ...

OMG! Post #3 was all lies!

You older than 35 also?

[rebirth24]

Maybe I missed it.... Where exactly can we find the verbal commands for utilizing an Thermostat through Echo and the ISY Portal?

[stusviews]

There's no built in way to change modes, but you can ask Alexa to set the 'thermostat_name" to x degrees.

[rebirth24]

Same question since it still hasn't been answered. Does anyone actually know the answer??

 

Maybe I missed it.... Where exactly can we find the verbal commands for utilizing a Thermostat through Echo and the ISY Portal?

[stusviews]

Does "Alexa, set the thermostat_name to X" not work for you?

[rebirth24]

Does "Alexa, set the thermostat_name to X" not work for you?

I don't know, does it? Is that the entire list of what can be done through Alexa and ISY for a thermostat?

[stusviews]

Does "Alexa, set the thermostat_name to X" not work for you?

 

I don't know, does it? Is that the entire list of what can be done through Alexa and ISY for a thermostat?

 

I can't answer the first question because I'm not you. As far as the second question, creating programs is an option to change mode and/or turn the thermostat on or off.

[rebirth24]

I can't answer the first question because I'm not you. As far as the second question, creating programs is an option to change mode and/or turn the thermostat on or off.

I am sure I can script until I am blue in the face. What are the default commands and functions? Seems like a common sense question?!

 

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[stusviews]

As I've already indicated more than once, there are no "default" commands other than adjusting the set-point. That's a lot, otherwise you'd need a program for each and every set point that you desired.

 

Anything else requires a program. Do you need help with programming? Have you ever created an ISY program? Is your concern only with voice commands?

[smileyw]

At one point I thought it had a turn-up or down X degrees, but I can't remember the command (and have been trying to figure it out again...)  Does anyone remember the verbal command for that (or if I am crazy).

[gweempose]

As I've already indicated more than once, there are no "default" commands other than adjusting the set-point. That's a lot, otherwise you'd need a program for each and every set point that you desired. Anything else requires a program.

 

There are actually quite a few commands that will work which do not require a program. For example, you can turn the thermostat off by saying "Turn off (thermostat name)". It will turn back on again if you issue a temperature command such as, "Set (thermostat name) to 70 degrees". If the temperature you requested is higher than the ambient temperature, it will turn on the heat. If it is lower than the ambient temperature, it will turn on the AC. You can query the ambient temperature at the thermostat by asking, "What is the (thermostat name) temperature?" or "What is the temperature in the (thermostat name)?"

 

At one point I thought it had a turn-up or down X degrees, but I can't remember the command (and have been trying to figure it out again...)  Does anyone remember the verbal command for that (or if I am crazy).

 

You are not crazy. I believe the command is "Increase/decrease (thermostat name) x degrees". It is important to note, however, that this command will not change the mode. So if the thermostat is set to cool, it will not switch to heat no matter how many degrees you increase the setting. In order to switch modes, you must first turn off the thermostat using the command I mentioned above.