Can I set two different momentary timeout for blinds on different scenes?

[guilherme]

It appears that I can only set the momentary timeout for the micro open/close device, but not the scene.. Is there a way around that to make one scene open the blinds fully and another to open it about 10% and another about 50% for example? 

 

Thanks

[stusviews]

Which blinds (brand; model, if applicable)? Which automation protocol do the blinds use?

[guilherme]

I dont know that.. They were installed by default by the construction company on my apartment.. But the thing is, I can make them stop halfway or fully open/close, but cant make a scene of each one.. They will only do one of the configurations untill I change the momentary timeout..

 

If the brand/model is important for that, I can try to look it up, but by default they can do that (stop where I want them to) by pushing the original buttons... But I want to control that via isy.

[guilherme]

I just read this on another post:

 

"I have several programs that allow intermediate settings. I simply timed the up/down duration and used a %age as the "wait" interval (e.g., 38sec duration, 10 sec is about 25%) to control a Micro On/Off module. To get consistent results regardless of the current position, the shade is fully opened first."

 

Can you show me how to configure this? Maybe post this on youtube? Would be VERY helpful to a lot of people!

 

Thanks

[stusviews]

Suppose it takes 42 seconds to fully close the blinds from fully open. Create a program that fully opens the blinds. You would use 42 (or even 45) seconds which will fully open them from any intermediate position. In general.

 

If 'trigger event'

 

Then

        send open command

        Wait 42 (or 45) seconds

        send stop command

 

Then add the following lines to close the blinds 50%

        send close command

        Wait 21 seconds (half of 42)

        send stop command

 

or add the following lines to close the blinds one-third of the way

        send close command

        Wait 14 seconds (one-third of 42)

        send stop command

 

or, to close the blinds approximately one-fourth of the way

        send close command

        Wait 10 (or 11)  seconds (one-fourth of 42 is 10.5)

        send stop command

 

[guilherme]

Thanks a lot! But I never wrote a program and I am struggling to find some of these actions on the drop down menus. Could you be just a little more descriptive about what to click to create these commands?

Also, for the thegger event you meant: If status 'x'is on?

 

Thanks

[stusviews]

The program trigger depends on the action you will take. In general, "Control" will trigger the program each time the trigger device sends the selected command (e.g., on, off, dim, etc.). Status will trigger the program whenever the state of the trigger device changes to the selected command.

 

Suppose "On" is the selected command. With control, the program will run each time an On is sent. Using status will run the program only when the device changes from some other state to On.

 

Click on the Then section first, then Action (near bottom of screen) to select the open, close, stop and wait commands. Except for Wait, the other commands depends on how you control those actions now. Which specific blinds?

 

Read this https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:How-To_Guide#Programs then post back as needed.

[guilherme]

I dont seem to have these open/close commands and the stop command is after "program".. Where can I find them? I am trying to post a pic but cant seem to figure out how..

Here is what I am getting

 

Action

 

Your devices  (shows all my devices)

Send x10  (House=A, Unit=1, Command= all light off)

Notify (To=default, Content=default)

Program (Run if, Run then, Run else, Stop, Enable, Disable, Enable run at startup, Disable run at startup)

Wait (hours, minutes, seconds)

Repeat (Every hour, min, sec)

Variable (...)

Adjust Scene (...)

Networking (...)

 

So where is that open, close and stop command?

 

Thanks

[stusviews]

Open, close and stop are nor ISY commands, they're commands you send to the blinds to achieve each operation. For example, you may need to send an on to get the blinds moving and an off to stop them.

[guilherme]

I understand, but I am still unable to make this work.. If that is not asking too much, would you be able to post a detailed step by step? For example: click on X, select y, then go to the insteon controller and press the on button, etc, etc.. I am not a newbie to computers but this is something that I just cant get right.. Sorry for the inconvenience, but it would help me and lots of other people that could be on the same level as me.

[stusviews]

How do you get the blinds to open? close? stop?

[guilherme]

I send an on command to open and an off to close, on the keypad or on the micro open/close. They dont stop, that is the reason I'm trying this.

[guilherme]

Would it be possible to help me step by step? I still cant get this to work..

[stusviews]

Not possible if you don't have a stop command possible. But you indicated in posts #3 & #4 that stop is possible. Are you doing that by changing the timing on the open/close module? Does the original controller have a stop command available?