jkraus Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Yesterday evening all of my lights controlled by the KP in the kitchen came on. I was in the office, and I had been doing something earlier with my ISY (trying to program my motion sensor), so I did not see when it happened, but all of the lights were on when I came out. I do have an RL, but some of the KP buttons are not controlled by an RL, so inadvertently hitting the "all lights on" does not seem to explain it. Now since I was doing some programming with the ISY, at this point I will attribute it to "user error" even though I cannot think what I might have done, but just curious if anyone has seen this. This is a new install for me and still learning, but do KPs go crazy like this once in a while? I hope not. Thx Joe
Michel Kohanim Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Hello Joe, The All On/All Off buttons on RL turn all devices that have ever been linked to any of the RL buttons. That is, regardless of which buttons were programmed, any device linked to RL will turn on/off. With kind regards, Michel Yesterday evening all of my lights controlled by the KP in the kitchen came on. I was in the office, and I had been doing something earlier with my ISY (trying to program my motion sensor), so I did not see when it happened, but all of the lights were on when I came out. I do have an RL, but some of the KP buttons are not controlled by an RL, so inadvertently hitting the "all lights on" does not seem to explain it. Now since I was doing some programming with the ISY, at this point I will attribute it to "user error" even though I cannot think what I might have done, but just curious if anyone has seen this. This is a new install for me and still learning, but do KPs go crazy like this once in a while? I hope not. Thx Joe
jkraus Posted March 13, 2009 Author Posted March 13, 2009 Thanks Michel, This surprises me, but to make sure I understand If I put in same scene KPL key #1 and RL key #1 (both as controllers) with light X", then hit RL "all on", all of the Keypad lights linked to KPL #2-#8 would also come on? I always assumed that "all on" on the RL would turn on all of the lights linked to the RL, not all of the lights that were linked to a controller that was linked to the RL Thx Joe
Michel Kohanim Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Hi Joe, I am sorry ... I think I didn't get your question correctly. You are right: all on/off is only for those that are linked to the RL. So, if the RL All on/All off cause unrelated devices to turn on/off, then I suspect you have slave links in the other devices. Can you verify that this is indeed the case? With kind regards, Michel Thanks Michel, This surprises me, but to make sure I understand If I put in same scene KPL key #1 and RL key #1 (both as controllers) with light X", then hit RL "all on", all of the Keypad lights linked to KPL #2-#8 would also come on? I always assumed that "all on" on the RL would turn on all of the lights linked to the RL, not all of the lights that were linked to a controller that was linked to the RL Thx Joe
jkraus Posted March 13, 2009 Author Posted March 13, 2009 Thanks Michel If you read my original post, I am not sure it was even related to the RL. Just all of the keypad slaves came on, not sure how, but as I was also working with ISL programing at the time, I will attribute it to some user error at this time, not to worry, just wondering if anyone has seen such kind of erratic behavior of KPls. Alos, after power failure do the light default to "on"? Thx Joe
Sub-Routine Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Thanks Michel If you read my original post, I am not sure it was even related to the RL. Just all of the keypad slaves came on, not sure how, but as I was also working with ISL programing at the time, I will attribute it to some user error at this time, not to worry, just wondering if anyone has seen such kind of erratic behavior of KPls. Alos, after power failure do the light default to "on"? Thx Joe Joe, I've seen some odd things but never all the KPL lights come on. If you were creating scenes and adjusting the levels then the lights would be set to those levels. After a power failure the dimmers should return to their previous states. Rand
jkraus Posted March 14, 2009 Author Posted March 14, 2009 ok I think I found the problem. My "query" program was somehow set to query at 11:18 pm and then "set My Lighting on" Why do I need a query program (purpose) and what is the correct format? Joe
Sub-Routine Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 ok I think I found the problem. My "query" program was somehow set to query at 11:18 pm and then "set My Lighting on" Why do I need a query program (purpose) and what is the correct format? Joe This is the default query program: If Time is 3:00:00AM Then Set Scene 'My Lighting' Query Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') It is used to ensure the ISY is in sync with all your devices. Rand
jkraus Posted March 14, 2009 Author Posted March 14, 2009 I see. But now I cannot even find the pull down menu to write a query program, can you give me specific details? I do nto even see a "set Scene" command. BTW your posting time stamp looks like it did not get the Daylight Savings update Thx Joe
Sub-Routine Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 No problem. Click Action. Select Insteon|device/scene|Query. Add to Then. R
jkraus Posted March 14, 2009 Author Posted March 14, 2009 wow, I must be dense, I do not even see that in my action pull down menus (ver 2.7)
jkraus Posted March 14, 2009 Author Posted March 14, 2009 Oh, I see, you set a query for a Scene. I though there was a global Query mode
jkraus Posted March 14, 2009 Author Posted March 14, 2009 Never Mind, I now see one of the Scenes is "My Lighting", that would be the "Global" One
Sub-Routine Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 Yes, I use scenes Indoor Lights and Outdoor Lights so I don't Query the LampLincs I use for hobbies and holidays. It also reduces scrolling when I want to view the Statuses. Rand
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