All lights contolled by Keypad came on!

[jkraus]

Yesterday evening all of my lights controlled by the KP in the kitchen came on. I was in the office, and I had been doing something earlier with my ISY (trying to program my motion sensor), so I did not see when it happened, but all of the lights were on when I came out. I do have an RL, but some of the KP buttons are not controlled by an RL, so inadvertently hitting the "all lights on" does not seem to explain it.

 

Now since I was doing some programming with the ISY, at this point I will attribute it to "user error" even though I cannot think what I might have done, but just curious if anyone has seen this.

 

This is a new install for me and still learning, but do KPs go crazy like this once in a while?

 

I hope not.

 

Thx

 

Joe

[Michel Kohanim]

Hello Joe,

 

The All On/All Off buttons on RL turn all devices that have ever been linked to any of the RL buttons. That is, regardless of which buttons were programmed, any device linked to RL will turn on/off.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

 

Yesterday evening all of my lights controlled by the KP in the kitchen came on. I was in the office, and I had been doing something earlier with my ISY (trying to program my motion sensor), so I did not see when it happened, but all of the lights were on when I came out. I do have an RL, but some of the KP buttons are not controlled by an RL, so inadvertently hitting the "all lights on" does not seem to explain it.

 

Now since I was doing some programming with the ISY, at this point I will attribute it to "user error" even though I cannot think what I might have done, but just curious if anyone has seen this.

 

This is a new install for me and still learning, but do KPs go crazy like this once in a while?

 

I hope not.

 

Thx

 

Joe

[jkraus]

Thanks Michel,

 

This surprises me, but to make sure I understand

 

If I put in same scene KPL key #1 and RL key #1 (both as controllers) with light X", then hit RL "all on", all of the Keypad lights linked to KPL #2-#8 would also come on?

 

I always assumed that "all on" on the RL would turn on all of the lights linked to the RL, not all of the lights that were linked to a controller that was linked to the RL

 

Thx

 

Joe

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi Joe,

 

I am sorry ... I think I didn't get your question correctly. You are right: all on/off is only for those that are linked to the RL.

 

So, if the RL All on/All off cause unrelated devices to turn on/off, then I suspect you have slave links in the other devices. Can you verify that this is indeed the case?

 

With kind regards,

Michel

 

Thanks Michel,

 

This surprises me, but to make sure I understand

 

If I put in same scene KPL key #1 and RL key #1 (both as controllers) with light X", then hit RL "all on", all of the Keypad lights linked to KPL #2-#8 would also come on?

 

I always assumed that "all on" on the RL would turn on all of the lights linked to the RL, not all of the lights that were linked to a controller that was linked to the RL

 

Thx

 

Joe

[jkraus]

Thanks Michel

 

If you read my original post, I am not sure it was even related to the RL. Just all of the keypad slaves came on, not sure how, but as I was also working with ISL programing at the time, I will attribute it to some user error at this time, not to worry, just wondering if anyone has seen such kind of erratic behavior of KPls.

 

Alos, after power failure do the light default to "on"?

 

Thx

 

Joe

[Sub-Routine]

Thanks Michel

 

If you read my original post, I am not sure it was even related to the RL. Just all of the keypad slaves came on, not sure how, but as I was also working with ISL programing at the time, I will attribute it to some user error at this time, not to worry, just wondering if anyone has seen such kind of erratic behavior of KPls.

 

Alos, after power failure do the light default to "on"?

 

Thx

 

Joe

 

Joe, I've seen some odd things but never all the KPL lights come on.

If you were creating scenes and adjusting the levels then the lights would be set to those levels.

 

After a power failure the dimmers should return to their previous states.

 

Rand

[jkraus]

ok

 

I think I found the problem. My "query" program was somehow set to query at 11:18 pm and then "set My Lighting on"

 

Why do I need a query program (purpose) and what is the correct format?

 

Joe

[Sub-Routine]

ok

 

I think I found the problem. My "query" program was somehow set to query at 11:18 pm and then "set My Lighting on"

 

Why do I need a query program (purpose) and what is the correct format?

 

Joe

 

This is the default query program:

 

If
       Time is  3:00:00AM

Then
       Set Scene 'My Lighting' Query

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

It is used to ensure the ISY is in sync with all your devices.

 

Rand

[jkraus]

I see. But now I cannot even find the pull down menu to write a query program, can you give me specific details? I do nto even see a "set Scene" command.

 

BTW your posting time stamp looks like it did not get the Daylight Savings update

 

Thx

 

Joe

[Sub-Routine]

No problem.

 

Click Action.

Select Insteon|device/scene|Query.

Add to Then.

 

R

[jkraus]

wow, I must be dense, I do not even see that in my action pull down menus (ver 2.7)

[Sub-Routine]

Here it is:

 

 

Rand

[jkraus]

Oh, I see, you set a query for a Scene. I though there was a global Query mode

[jkraus]

Never Mind, I now see one of the Scenes is "My Lighting", that would be the "Global" One

[Sub-Routine]

Yes, I use scenes Indoor Lights and Outdoor Lights so I don't Query the LampLincs I use for hobbies and holidays. It also reduces scrolling when I want to view the Statuses.

 

Rand

[jkraus]

Got it!

 

Thx