DrLumen Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 I have an odd one, at least I think it is odd. When I use the web interface, almost all the devices show as on but with 0%. They never actually go to an off status. Does everyone see this for ZWave stuff?
asbril Posted February 5, 2018 Posted February 5, 2018 I have an odd one, at least I think it is odd. When I use the web interface, almost all the devices show as on but with 0%. They never actually go to an off status. Does everyone see this for ZWave stuff? Yes, I have this with my dimmer and fan switches. 0 % is like OFF.
DrLumen Posted February 6, 2018 Author Posted February 6, 2018 Yes, I have this with my dimmer and fan switches. 0 % is like OFF. Thanks for the confirmation. It would be nice if they showed as off. I'll have my own UI ready soon though.
asbril Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 Thanks for the confirmation. It would be nice if they showed as off. I'll have my own UI ready soon though. Personally I dont see it as a problem. It seems logical for dimmer switches.
DrLumen Posted February 6, 2018 Author Posted February 6, 2018 IMO, anything less than 2 or 3% should be shown as off. The issue is when scanning over everything as it scrolls past shows almost every thing as on. But, then I have to check the percentages of them to confirm. Some even show as On and Off - however that is supposed to work. It's getting hard to stay positive about some of this shtuff.
stusviews Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 IMO, anything less than 2 or 3% should be shown as off. The issue is when scanning over everything as it scrolls past shows almost every thing as on. But, then I have to check the percentages of them to confirm. Some even show as On and Off - however that is supposed to work. It's getting hard to stay positive about some of this shtuff. IMO, anything greater than 0% should show as on. In fact, anything greater than 0% is not subject to an opinion at all wrt/on or off. Interesting fact: Around the time of Socrates, zero (0) did not exist or at least it was debated. The logic was, how can you show/prove the existence of nothing 2
larryllix Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 I have LED strips that show a glow at 1%. They used switched PWM and go down linearly until 0%.
asbril Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 IMO, anything greater than 0% should show as on. In fact, anything greater than 0% is not subject to an opinion at all wrt/on or off. Interesting fact: Around the time of Socrates, zero (0) did not exist or at least it was debated. The logic was, how can you show/prove the existence of nothing Eureka !!!!!!!
DrLumen Posted February 6, 2018 Author Posted February 6, 2018 IMO, anything greater than 0% should show as on. In fact, anything greater than 0% is not subject to an opinion at all wrt/on or off. Interesting fact: Around the time of Socrates, zero (0) did not exist or at least it was debated. The logic was, how can you show/prove the existence of nothing I would think it would have been really easy for them. "How many any sheep are in that field?" After a quick look, "None!" larryllix, if your LED's glow at 1%, are they giving off any 'real' luminance? If so, you have an instrumentation error. Anyway, I say 2-3% from past experience. YMMV.
asbril Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 (edited) I would think it would have been really easy for them. "How many any sheep are in that field?" After a quick look, "None!" larryllix, if your LED's glow at 1%, are they giving off any 'real' luminance? If so, you have an instrumentation error. Anyway, I say 2-3% from past experience. YMMV. "How many any sheep are in that field?" After a quick look, "None!" That is why I am sometimes sleepless...... I keep counting and founding none. Edited February 6, 2018 by asbril
stusviews Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 I would think it would have been really easy for them. "How many any sheep are in that field?" After a quick look, "None!" Of course they recognized when there was none (to be counted). The concern was about mathematical proof. Mathematics was in it's infancy and everything needed a reproducible proof. Even in arithmetic, zero did not exist. Neither adding nor subtracting zero made no difference and, at the time. multiplying or dividing by zero made no sense. It just wasn't done. Even in modern mathematics, we differentiate between nothing and zero. For example, there is nothing between these brackets [ ]. That's not the case here [ 1, 2 ] nor here [ 0, 1 ] nor even here [0, 0]. Each set contains two elements. More trivia: LISP introduced beginning with 0 instead of the traditional 1 in programming.
smokegrub Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 Me thinks we may be "tilting at windmills" a bit. 1
DrLumen Posted February 7, 2018 Author Posted February 7, 2018 But seriously, what is the use of having color coded icons if they don't mean anything? Hmmm, Adobe flash required for a Choose Files... button?
stusviews Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) That's not my experience, although I have no clue as to why your view is incorrect. Edited February 7, 2018 by stusviews
Michel Kohanim Posted February 7, 2018 Posted February 7, 2018 DrLumen, I need your /rest/nodes. With kind regards, Michel
DrLumen Posted February 7, 2018 Author Posted February 7, 2018 DrLumen, I need your /rest/nodes. With kind regards, Michel PM sent with attached xml.
DrLumen Posted February 16, 2018 Author Posted February 16, 2018 Just curious if there are any solutions?
Michel Kohanim Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 DrLumen, Not yet but next in our list for investigation. With kind regards, Michel
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