Recently purchased Inovelli Z-wave on/off switch (Z-Wave Plus) with no-scenes.  Added to a scene in ISY.  I can control the scene in ISY console or thru other switches in the scene and the Z-Wave switch responses correctly; however, I can’t control the scene when I physical turning on/off from the Z-wave switch.   Other devices in the scene do NOT response.  The direct connect lights from the Z-wave is triggering on/off and working and connected correctly.  I though the ISY simulated scene goes both ways.  My other switches are Insteon devices and the Z-wave switch is the only Z-wave device in the scene.   

V5.0.12 both firmware and UI.  Tried to remove from scene and re-add but still the same.  The switch is only 5 feet from the ISY box.  ISY does show the status of the Z-wave switch correctly when I hit the Z-wave switch...out of all the devices in the scene, only the Z-wave switch reflects on or off status.  

Thanks in advance!!

 

Edited May 4, 20187 yr by bktong

Does that switch support instant status? Another thing to check is to make sure that it is a controller in your scene

I would think it does support instant status because ISY reflects the status of on and off immediately.  Yes, when I added to the scene, I made sure it's a Controller.  

This is the Z-Wave device:

https://inovelli.com/shop/smart-light-switches/zwave-on-off-repeater-nzw30/

Can't determine by the description whether it's instant status.

Edited May 5, 20187 yr by bktong

If the ISY changes instantly then it does send it. 

 

This program triggers the scene:

If

    ‘Z-Wave’ Status is On

Then

   Set ‘Family Room Scene’ On

 

However, this program doesn’t trigger (doesn't run THEN) the scene:

If

  ‘Z-Wave’ is switched On

Then

 Set ‘Family Room Scene’ On

 

Somehow ISY sees Status but can’t see Control at the switch.  UDI is telling that's normal for Z-wave switches.  

Edited May 5, 20187 yr by bktong

I looked closer at what you purchased. Looks like that one isn't scene capable which means it can't be a controller. Only a responder. I'm not sure if that has anything to do with it but generally scene capable devices send commands.

That confirms it. It's sending it's status. Not the command itself.

Thanks.  I believe you are right.  It was going to be that or a bug in ISY.  This is the first Z-Wave device but I have been using ISY for years and I now know to purchase more Z-wave devices  with the Scene feature.  This company has switches with scene but out of stock for a long time.   I guess ISY does not detect Z-Wave correctly since it allows me to toggle as a Controller.  It wouldn't allow me to do that if an Insteon device (an older device) is not capable of being a Controller.  

I can only find scene-capable Z-Wave devices are by  Inovelli and Homeseer.  Any others? 

Thanks again!!

Edited May 5, 20187 yr by bktong

I really couldn't say what zwave switches are scene capable as I use insteon switches and Zwave sensors. The copper aspire line as well as some leviton switches more than likely are. I believe the new GE. Zwave plus switches are also.

Zwave can control insteon as I have a few directly linked to insteon switches via scenes so I can confirm that on some level support for both ways.

I recently purchased the Inovelli scene capable dimmer switch (NZW31) but it seems like that even with scene built-in to the switch, it's still not a CONTROLLER.  The below programs ae still required if I hit the buttons on the physical switch to trigger the ISY Scene.  ISY would allow to toggle between RESPONDER or CONTROLLER when adding it to a scene but the final result is it can only be a RESPONDOR.  

If

    'Z-wave - Dimmer Switch' Status is 0%

Then

   Set 'Z-wave - Dimmer Switch' Off

Else

   - No Actions 

 

If

    'Z-wave - Dimmer Switch' Status > 0%

Then

   Set 'Z-wave - Dimmer Switch' On

Else

   - No Actions 

 

A somewhat related question...is ISY compatible with Z-Wave scene enabled switches?  How can ISY do Tap 2x or Tap 3x to control a scene?  

 

Thanks. 

Edited June 3, 20187 yr by bktong