jkraus Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 I am so upset. After over $1000 spent on ISy and Insteon, now when I press a scene button on the KPL or an RL that are linked to a scene, the button blinks but so do the lights on an entirely different circuit not even controlled by Insteon. This is crazy! My wife is ready to throw the whole mess out, and I did it so carefully in that I did the install in stages so I would not have this problem. Why would light blink on entirely different circuits not even controlled by Insteon??. My wife is afraid to touch anything as if to get electrocuted and I have spend countless hours installing all of this. So bizarre!
Michel Kohanim Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Hello jkraus, Wow, this is incredible. Are you saying that your non-INSTEON devices start flickering when you use INSTEON to activate a scene? If so, what protocol is used for those other devices? With kind regards, Michel I am so upset. After over $1000 spent on ISy and Insteon, now when I press a scene button on the KPL or an RL that are linked to a scene, the button blinks but so do the lights on an entirely different circuit not even controlled by Insteon. This is crazy! My wife is ready to throw the whole mess out, and I did it so carefully in that I did the install in stages so I would not have this problem. Why would light blink on entirely different circuits not even controlled by Insteon??. My wife is afraid to touch anything as if to get electrocuted and I have spend countless hours installing all of this. So bizarre!
Brian H Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Also are the flashing lights controlled by any non automated switches. Like a dimmer?
jkraus Posted April 13, 2009 Author Posted April 13, 2009 yes, correct the other light is non insteon controlled and it is controlled by a phyical dimmer. Symptom: press the KPL key, if other light is on it will flash by a quick dim then back . if the KPL key flashes (like when it has a brief communication issue) the other light if on will flash that same number of times. If the second light is off no flashing of course. Joe
jkraus Posted April 13, 2009 Author Posted April 13, 2009 I had no time to pop the light cover, but I can see this is a Leviton paddle switch dimmer. I has been installed for many years. Is it possible that it is some sort of powerline controlled switch that I never knew about? I did pay a lot for it, but I had to look for a glossy black one to match my decor, so I thought the price was for that, but possibly has some sort of electronic control in it? But why would it flash due to Insteon signals?
Sub-Routine Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 I had no time to pop the light cover, but I can see this is a Leviton paddle switch dimmer. I has been installed for many years. Is it possible that it is some sort of powerline controlled switch that I never knew about? I did pay a lot for it, but I had to look for a glossy black one to match my decor, so I thought the price was for that, but possibly has some sort of electronic control in it? But why would it flash due to Insteon signals? Joe, the switch does not have to be power-line controlled to flicker with Insteon signals. Some electronic dimmers are sensitive to power-line signals, including some of the early Insteon dimmers. Smarthome made changes to the Insteon circuitry to eliminate that problem. I don't know if there is any option other than to replace the switch. Rand
jkraus Posted April 13, 2009 Author Posted April 13, 2009 Thanks Sub-Routine, If Smarthome made changes and I have all new equipment, then why the issue do you suspect? Changing the switch sounds easy, but I have to find one that fits the decor, so to be sure this is the problem would help. Was the "flickering" the symptom with these dimmers? This one is about 10+ years old Joe
ryarber Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 smarthome sells replacement paddles for all their insteon switches, so if you need a black switch, you can just order a switch and a replacement paddle in the color you want. Here is a link to their color change kits for the switchlinc dimmers: http://www.smarthome.com/_/SwitchLinc/SwitchLinc_Paddle_Change_Kits/_/2vh/2wL/nav.aspx
Sub-Routine Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Joe, Smarthome made changes within their dimmers, a larger choke or some such. Smarthome has a black Insteon dimmer switch, if that will fit your decor. Rand
jkraus Posted April 14, 2009 Author Posted April 14, 2009 It was the Dimmer! You guys were right! Funny, ended up replacing it with same model and brand, but fixed the problem, must have been either old or they upgraded the electronics Thanks much! Joe
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