Smarthome Insteon Hub and ISY994i

[mitchmitchell]

Well I got tired of having my new Insteon Motion Sensor II's turn off the lights in the closet while I was working (where it couldn't see me) so I bought a Smarthome Inteon Hub in order to program the Motion Sensor to only send ON messages then use it with the ISY network (I'd used the old motion sensors that way and it was very convenient -- I have programs that turn the lights off *except* when turned on from the switch).

So, I get the hub and decide to check the forums before setting it up and lo and behold, the new Beta of 5.x supports the Motion Sensor IIs and now no need for the Hub.

But, now that I have it, I'm wondering if there is anything worthwhile I can do with it on an Insteon network that is ISY controlled?  Has anyone put the Smarthome Hub on their network with the ISY and found a good use for it?

Thanks!

[ronvond]

Using the new motion sensor II and UDI 4.7.3 I have my sensor set for "ON" only.  The lights are then turned off under program control.

See below:

Bedroom Motion Right - [ID 001E][Parent 0001]

If
        (
             Status  'Bedroom / MS-2-Sensor' is On
         And From    10:30:00PM
             To      Sunrise (next day)
        )
 
Then
        Set 'Bedroom / Under Bed Lites' Fast On   "Under Bed Lites" is set with a ramp rate of 1 minute allowing a slow dimming of the lights on shut off.
        Wait  5 minutes 
        Set 'Bedroom / Under Bed Lites' Off
 
Else
        Wait  5 minutes 
        Set 'Bedroom / Under Bed Lites' Off
 

The "Else" statement may seem redundant, but if the lights are turned on manually they would never turn off.  With the ELSE statement, the next time they sense motion, the 5 minute countdown would start.  Obviously the "5 minute" timing could be changed to whatever is convenient for you.

Hope this helps.

Ron

[JacktheRipper]

In another state, I have a vacation house with an ISY, and an outbuilding that has a hub. Incredibly, they are on different grid transformers, so the only Insteon connection between the buildings is wireless, and it's flaky because of distance. I have a wireless open/close sensor on the garage door of the outbuilding, and I wanted to get a text if that door was left open for more than 15 minutes. The hub couldn't do that logic, so I used the ISY to discover the sensor, and I wrote a program to send the alert. Unfortunately, the ISY sometimes misses the status changes from the sensor, and the logic fails. I would like to have the hub, which is said to have an improved antenna for wireless Insteon, be a "discovered device" on the ISY, but I don't know if that's possible. Has anyone ever tried it? I should note that I'm not currently at the house, but will be in a few weeks to experiment.

[mwester]

The Insteon powerline/RF portion of the protocol is unaware of the link database -- so it will make no difference if the hub is "discovered" or not.  Any Insteon device will "relay" for any other, even if that other device is linked to nothing at all.

[mitchmitchell]

On 12/2/2018 at 7:56 PM, ronvond said:

Using the new motion sensor II and UDI 4.7.3 I have my sensor set for "ON" only.  The lights are then turned off under program control.

I did something quite similar but for a different reason -- I have a program flag that is set to "manual control" if the light is turned on from the switch (even if the motion has already turned on the light) so that I can work in the closet without having the sensor (which cannot see me where the network cabinet is) turn off the light.  Programming the Motion Sensor II to send on messages only was why I originally bought the Insteon Hub, but the firmware updates for 5.0 handle it so I'm just searching for a use for the Hub.

[lilyoyo1]

2 hours ago, mitchmitchell said:

I did something quite similar but for a different reason -- I have a program flag that is set to "manual control" if the light is turned on from the switch (even if the motion has already turned on the light) so that I can work in the closet without having the sensor (which cannot see me where the network cabinet is) turn off the light.  Programming the Motion Sensor II to send on messages only was why I originally bought the Insteon Hub, but the firmware updates for 5.0 handle it so I'm just searching for a use for the Hub.

It makes a nice paperweight. Lol