Andi-Ina Posted April 29, 2019 Author Posted April 29, 2019 I thought i update you guys ok made "test 1" program (pic9) and right kick and disabled it. Made "test" program and included test 1 withe the other switches and wolla it works. Thank you everyone good strong community here *thumbs up*
oberkc Posted April 29, 2019 Posted April 29, 2019 Well done. Your persistence pays off, and will continue to do so.
larryllix Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 9 hours ago, Andi-Ina said: I thought i update you guys ok made "test 1" program (pic9) and right kick and disabled it. Made "test" program and included test 1 withe the other switches and wolla it works. Thank you everyone good strong community here *thumbs up* FYI: You can right click on programs in the program tree and select "Copy to clipboard" and then paste you program here without the screen shots.
auger66 Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 On 4/28/2019 at 11:03 AM, larryllix said: Scenes can do all that, setting can vary for each device, but they will also control the off and dimming for the other switches also. Unless I need the response speed or the easy control of a huge quantity of devices, I avoid use of scenes. Interesting. I've been using ISYs for years, but I'm still a novice. My preference of automation goes from: Controlling the load with the switch/dimmer A scene A program Anything that requires the internet My thought was always to go from least complicated to most complicated. Or most reliable to least. If I lose the internet, down one level. Lose the ISY, down another, etc. That way I retain the most functionality when things start going wrong. Plus, there's the speed issue you mentioned. I guess my philosophy is different. I just did three new setups (one very large) so I hope I don't have a fundamental misunderstanding about scenes. I don't see the disadvantage of using them.
lilyoyo1 Posted April 30, 2019 Posted April 30, 2019 32 minutes ago, auger66 said: Interesting. I've been using ISYs for years, but I'm still a novice. My preference of automation goes from: Controlling the load with the switch/dimmer A scene A program Anything that requires the internet My thought was always to go from least complicated to most complicated. Or most reliable to least. If I lose the internet, down one level. Lose the ISY, down another, etc. That way I retain the most functionality when things start going wrong. Plus, there's the speed issue you mentioned. I guess my philosophy is different. I just did three new setups (one very large) so I hope I don't have a fundamental misunderstanding about scenes. I don't see the disadvantage of using them. There's really no right or wrong way to do things. My philosophy is similar to yours. I use scenes for everything and let programs add additional functionality to them. It's not just the speed that scenes execute but the way devices respond in sync.
larryllix Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 I prefer the security of devices given retries and reporting status changes upon comm problems. I could have stuck with X10 otherwise and assumed success. I like the control of being able to see what controls what easily, and make changes that ISY program control offers. I like the ability to use conditional logic to change the brightness level and controlling the time off based on other conditions. I like to use HA, as well as RC so I got an ISY. I certainly use Insteon scenes, but then I have to block MS off commands and find ways to block switches from operating linked devices in ways I don't want them to. I have very few Insteon devices directly operating other Insteon devices and the list grows by using other technologies. Sent using Tapatalk
lilyoyo1 Posted May 1, 2019 Posted May 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, larryllix said: I prefer the security of devices given retries and reporting status changes upon comm problems. I could have stuck with X10 otherwise and assumed success. I like the control of being able to see what controls what easily, and make changes that ISY program control offers. I like the ability to use conditional logic to change the brightness level and controlling the time off based on other conditions. I like to use HA, as well as RC so I got an ISY. I certainly use Insteon scenes, but then I have to block MS off commands and find ways to block switches from operating linked devices in ways I don't want them to. I have very few Insteon devices directly operating other Insteon devices and the list grows by using other technologies. Sent using Tapatalk I do the same with wireless devices. I've always kept sensors separate as I like the amount of options I have with them by using programs. Remotes I always used programs so I wouldn't have to put it in linking mode. That's mitigated now with the ISYs ability to write updates after using it but since I only have 1 now it's become a moot point.
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