DaveGee Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Anyone with a Mac? Let me know if this calc does not work for some browsers because it was only tested on Microsoft Internet Exploder Mark, [Just a heads up ... works fine with Safari v3.0.3 (running on OS X)....] Q1a: Playing with the calc... Why is it that an 8 button KPL is considered to be 16 links (when its the only item I add to the calc) but a 6 button KPL is considered to only be 10 links? Q1b: Why wouldn't the KPLs be considered 6 or 8 links (like the Controlinc is considered 5) instead of 10 (or 16)? Dave Link to comment
upstatemike Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Anyone with a Mac? Let me know if this calc does not work for some browsers because it was only tested on Microsoft Internet Exploder Mark, [Just a heads up ... works fine with Safari v3.0.3 (running on OS X)....] Q1a: Playing with the calc... Why is it that an 8 button KPL is considered to be 16 links (when its the only item I add to the calc) but a 6 button KPL is considered to only be 10 links? Q1b: Why wouldn't the KPLs be considered 6 (or links (like the Controlinc is considered 5) instead of 10 (or 16)? Dave Q1a: A 6 button KeypadLinc controls 5 groups the same as a ControLinc. It only has 6 buttons because the main LOAD group is split into separate ON and OFF buttons. Q1b: A KeypadLinc button needs to be cross linked to control the button LED so 2 links per button. No LED on ControLinc buttons so just the single link per button is required. Link to comment
Mark Sanctuary Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I can't answer exactly why the 2x on the keypadlincs because Michel added that to the math so I suspected it was correct. He would have to answer to it but my guess it each button is able to be a controller so it takes two links per controller. ISY PLM Link Calculator Link to comment
Mark Sanctuary Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Just a heads up ... works fine with Safari v3.0.3 (running on OS X)....] I did not know if the "onKeyUp" tag argument worked in the Mac browser or not. Sounds like it works. Thanks! Link to comment
DaveGee Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 As always thanks again.... and yep.... the leds I forgot about that... I only have controlinks so I never thought about it. From what I've read isn't having the LEDs on the KPLs more of a headache than its worth since trying to keep the status correct a real chore (especially when a single button activates more than one or two devices)? Tho I think I just read in the scripting area that someone has a pretty neat and elegant fix for that now. I'm **so** tempted to buy this right now but will try my best to hold out for the 99.9 I've been reading about since it seems to be more scalable (WRT links and such) oh and the RF version is tempting too but that'll just mean even more of a wait... but hey, its already Nov. - 'early Dec' isn't all that far out... Dave Link to comment
upstatemike Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 As always thanks again.... and yep.... the leds I forgot about that... I only have controlinks so I never thought about it. From what I've read isn't having the LEDs on the KPLs more of a headache than its worth since trying to keep the status correct a real chore (especially when a single button activates more than one or two devices)? Tho I think I just read in the scripting area that someone has a pretty neat and elegant fix for that now. I'm **so** tempted to buy this right now but will try my best to hold out for the 99.9 I've been reading about since it seems to be more scalable (WRT links and such) oh and the RF version is tempting too but that'll just mean even more of a wait... but hey, its already Nov. - 'early Dec' isn't all that far out... Dave KPLs are definitely a headache. Too bad they never came out with the promised wall mount bracket for the ContrLinc! Still the LEDs are handy when controlling outside lighting or other fixtures you can't see from the switch location. What RF version are you referring to? I know about an IR version, but RF? Link to comment
DaveGee Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 What RF version are you referring to? I know about an IR version, but RF? Yea chalk that up to being without my 1st can-o-caffeine I really meant to type IR sorry if the idea of an RF version made your heart skip a beat. Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Hello DaveGee, Apologies for the delay in my reply ... 2 links for controllers since a) a slave link in the PLM to "hear" button presses and a master link in the PLM and slave in the KPL during the linking phase. It's not 2 per button per se but it's a close approximation. We do not have any RF versions planned!!! Are you referring to IR??? With kind regards, Michel As always thanks again.... and yep.... the leds I forgot about that... I only have controlinks so I never thought about it. From what I've read isn't having the LEDs on the KPLs more of a headache than its worth since trying to keep the status correct a real chore (especially when a single button activates more than one or two devices)? Tho I think I just read in the scripting area that someone has a pretty neat and elegant fix for that now. I'm **so** tempted to buy this right now but will try my best to hold out for the 99.9 I've been reading about since it seems to be more scalable (WRT links and such) oh and the RF version is tempting too but that'll just mean even more of a wait... but hey, its already Nov. - 'early Dec' isn't all that far out... Dave Link to comment
MikeB Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Is there any chance of the ISY-26 simply checking the PLM and letting us know how many links are being used? Or is it not so easy to determine? Link to comment
DaveGee Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 We do not have any RF versions planned!!! Are you referring to IR??? Yea I know, was an innocent mistake... but just think now about all the rumors that will be kicked up over some future product... (KIDDING FOLKS!!) D Link to comment
Mark Sanctuary Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Is there any chance of the ISY-26 simply checking the PLM and letting us know how many links are being used? Or is it not so easy to determine? The ISY PLM Link Calculator is for estimation for users and new users. Actual numbers would have to be done in the ISY like your mentioning. Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 MikeB, As of right now, we would have to count each link in the PLM. In the future generations of the PLM, we would know how many more links are available. With kind regards, Michel Is there any chance of the ISY-26 simply checking the PLM and letting us know how many links are being used? Or is it not so easy to determine? Link to comment
Mark Sanctuary Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Ooo...are they going to add a callback to the new PLMs that return link info? Link to comment
MikeB Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 I just ran this calculator, and it estimates I'm at 448 links. Wonder how many I'm really at? Link to comment
Mark Sanctuary Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Only the PLM knows, but at some point the PLM will have a callback to tell the ISY how many links it has. Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 MikeB, If the calculator says you have 448 links, then rest assured you have either gone beyond the max links or you are very very close. With kind regards, I just ran this calculator, and it estimates I'm at 448 links. Wonder how many I'm really at? Link to comment
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