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Anyone know how Autelis integrated with ISY and how to do same with Home Assistant?


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Been looking at integrating my Pentair Suntouch with Autelis directly into Home Assistant. Finding Autelis info is kinda sparse. Has anyone tried and been successful with ANY Autelis product? Even if Autelis is long gone, I like the simplicity and there should be a fairly easy way to integrate to HA. Right now, I depend on ISY/Autelis interface and forward the info I need to HA. 

Anyone?

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Not really; but if you log into the device with its network local IP address, a menu should come up. Maybe you can figure it out from there.

  • 1 year later...
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EagleAye, did you ever find a solution for this?  I also have my Autelis (Intellitouch/Easytouch) integrated with the ISY994i, but would also like a direct integration with Home Assistant.  I've seen integrations for Pentair's EasyTouch controller.  Since both work with the Pentair controller bus, I would have to think the HA EasyTouch could be modded to work.

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it's not the pentair RS-485 that counts in this case, it's what happens on the Ethernet side of either the Pentair screenlogic controller (which does have an HA integration) or the Autellis Control (which does not--that I know of--have a HA integration).  Yes, both controllers speak in the RS-485 bus, but that's not the protocol in play on Ethernet side that has a webserver built into both controllers.

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The Autelis presents a REST interface over the LAN for status and control. That’s what the Autelis Node server uses, and several people use the network module. Should be fairly easy to build a HA interface if you know REST and the HA integration definition language.

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That is the problem (on my end). I have not taken the time to figure out the REST interface and how to work it with Home Assistant. I am still trying to figure out just HA at this point, and get squirreled on other things in HA when playing around.

Kinda an uphill battle to figure out both, and starting dry is daunting. I poke a bit here and there and find other neat things to change in HA, and let my ISY still control Autelis through REST. I gotta get on this. Seems easy once understood, just need to do the dive.

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Just checking in, here.  Has anyone done any digging into this?  I also have an Autelis Pool Control integrated with my ISY.  But because of recent, ongoing issues with ISY and Insteon, I'm trying to slowly but surely move things into Home Assistant, but this time I'd like to use the HA Insteon integration, rather than the ISY one.  Problem is, I've got some pool-specific actions built around various pool status points in ISY that I'd rather not live without, so that is preventing me from moving the other Insteon devices off of ISY.

I'm not a programmer, but I see references to ajax.js from browser developer tools when I hit the Autelis web page and toggle some of my equipment on/off.  Someone mentioned that the interface was more REST-based, and that digging into RS-485 signals may not be required.  Could WireShark or Fiddler be used to intercept and decipher the REST traffic?

I also see that someone developed out an Autelis Node Server, the code of which is in Github.  Could this be used as a basis for porting over to HA?

I mentioned that I'm not a developer, but I'd like to help in any capacity that I can.

 

 

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No need to dig into RS-485 traffic. That is what the Autelis does - interfaces a TCP/IP REST-based interface to the RS-485 control system of the AquaLink interface. Also, no need for Wireshark or Fiddler to intercept/decipher the REST traffic - the REST interface for the Autelis device is published (again this is its raison d'etre). 

The PG2 Node server is public and in Github.

The information that is missing is the Home Assistant integration side, and this is probably not the best forum to be finding that kind of information.

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19 hours ago, Goose66 said:

No need to dig into RS-485 traffic. That is what the Autelis does - interfaces a TCP/IP REST-based interface to the RS-485 control system of the AquaLink interface. Also, no need for Wireshark or Fiddler to intercept/decipher the REST traffic - the REST interface for the Autelis device is published (again this is its raison d'etre). 

The PG2 Node server is public and in Github.

The information that is missing is the Home Assistant integration side, and this is probably not the best forum to be finding that kind of information.

Any chance the Autelis Pentair Node Server will be added to PG3?

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I guess it depends on how many folks would buy it. Same for AquaLinkRS Node server. I feel like these have been pushed aside for the corresponding web-based control mechanisms, e.g., iAquaLink.

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I would buy it!  I have 2 of them.  If you don't want to support the Autelis-Jandy then I'll take it over :) but would be a while before I could work on it...  Or maybe I should try the IAquaLink PG2 NS and ask for that one to move to PG3, but I think I would prefer the local control if Autelis.

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On 6/29/2022 at 12:14 PM, Goose66 said:

I guess it depends on how many folks would buy it. Same for AquaLinkRS Node server. I feel like these have been pushed aside for the corresponding web-based control mechanisms, e.g., iAquaLink.

I would of course buy it too.

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I don't know if this is still of interest to anyone, so this is probably a dead topic at this point.  I've been trying to chip away at this.  I found the Autelis API reference and at the moment, I am able to get all the temps, equipment status, circuits, circuit names, system status info, etc. from my Autelis controller reporting directly into HA as sensors that I can display from entity cards, via RESTful definitions and template sensor .yaml files.  No ISY involved.

I would like to take the ones and zeroes from some of the binary-type sensors and be able to display them as On or Off, and convert the Unix time that reports back into some sort of human-readable dates/times, but have not yet been successful. 

I haven't gotten so far as to be able send commands from a button card, but have been able to send simple commands from the terminal using curl statements to turn equipment like the lights on/off, for example.

I'm not a developer, so this has been a bit of a slug-fest...

 

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