Hey all

With NO Insteon switches currently available for purchase, I opted to purchase some Leviton Z-Wave to complete an expansion project ... 

I made test purchase of a plug & dimmer first, tested signal limitations etc, had no issues integrating into ISY ... 

SO, I purchased a bunch of basic more ZW switches &  dimmers and proceeded to wire in some 3 -ways today ... no luck

Question 1

I wired as per Leviton instructions with signal follower wire, the 3-way does not work out of the box (including 15 second reset) .... I cannot find anything on the web explaining any programming required to support a 3-way standalone (not related to ISY)

Question 2

When creating a scene and adding the switches, CONTROLLER is not an available option despite what is published in the WIKI  (assuming this is how they should be added)

Adding both to scene as Responder does nothing and the remote (non-controlling switch) has no control

I'm lost ... any help appreciated 

 

 

I am all Zwave and have several 3-ways (incl one 4-way).

In my case I have two different setups.

(1) GE/Jasco regular switches with auxiliary switch. The wiring is different than "dumb" 3-way.

(2) Inovelli regular switch with plain old dumb switch as "slave". Wiring different from "dumb"  and from GE/Jasco.

I am not too fond anymore of Inovelli switches (frequent issues) and I believe that another brand (Zooz ???) also works with dumb switches as slave.

Both setups work well with ISY.

I don't use scenes much, so can't help you with that.

Good luck

Edited January 2, 20223 yr by asbril

55 minutes ago, jim_ said:

Hey all

With NO Insteon switches currently available for purchase, I opted to purchase some Leviton Z-Wave to complete an expansion project ... 

I made test purchase of a plug & dimmer first, tested signal limitations etc, had no issues integrating into ISY ... 

SO, I purchased a bunch of basic more ZW switches &  dimmers and proceeded to wire in some 3 -ways today ... no luck

Question 1

I wired as per Leviton instructions with signal follower wire, the 3-way does not work out of the box (including 15 second reset) .... I cannot find anything on the web explaining any programming required to support a 3-way standalone (not related to ISY)

Question 2

When creating a scene and adding the switches, CONTROLLER is not an available option despite what is published in the WIKI  (assuming this is how they should be added)

Adding both to scene as Responder does nothing and the remote (non-controlling switch) has no control

I'm lost ... any help appreciated 

 

 

Leviton has many different switch options so your models along with Isy firmware and UI would be welcomed so we could assist

Hey Lilyoyo1

I just figured out my question one ... When I purchased both DZ15S switch & DZ6HD dimmer 's, the electrical store TOLD ME I could use [dual] smart switches or special order the corresponding dumb followers. Since the costs for the Z-Wave switches are cheaper than dumb followers, the decision was easy. Its one of those days, read the manual 20 times and finally note the title "3-way wiring with DD0SR-DL" >>>  AKA dumb follower

Therefore, my question TWO stands .... can Z-wave switches be added to ISY in a similar manner as Insteon as controllers

ISY is V 5.3 

 

 

1 hour ago, jim_ said:

Hey Lilyoyo1

I just figured out my question one ... When I purchased both DZ15S switch & DZ6HD dimmer 's, the electrical store TOLD ME I could use [dual] smart switches or special order the corresponding dumb followers. Since the costs for the Z-Wave switches are cheaper than dumb followers, the decision was easy. Its one of those days, read the manual 20 times and finally note the title "3-way wiring with DD0SR-DL" >>>  AKA dumb follower

Therefore, my question TWO stands .... can Z-wave switches be added to ISY in a similar manner as Insteon as controllers

ISY is V 5.3 

 

 

Some can but not all. Unfortunately it depends on make, model, and firmware the switch has along with your firmware/UI...

Generally devices that are capable of being scene controllers can be set up this way. Otherwise you'd need programs to link them together

I have a couple of Leviton zwave switches.  I can add them as scene controllers.  Unfortunately, I am unable to create scenes directly linked (link type: zwave) but only via the ISY (link type: default) to other zwave devices.  The scenes function fine, but I assume would cease to do so absent the ISY-994 controller (unlike Insteon).

Came to the conclusion, it is not possible to add these Leviton DZ15S & DZ6HD switch's as Controllers in a scene