Blackbird Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 I am having problems with the ISY running very slow. Mostly the programs. I recently moved and have yet to install all my insteon devices so every time I opened up the admin console I got a bunch of messages saying it cant communicate with the devices. I disabled all of those devices and still have problems. I also upgraded to 5.3.4 For example if i put my water sensor in water, the "Wet" on the admin console, shows "On" very quickly but if I go to the programs where I am supposed to receive an email when the device is wet and I click the "Run Then" option, it takes a few minutes or longer for the program to react. Using the "Run Then" option on any program takes a long long time to react. Also all of my status Icons in my programs are showing a white icon, if that tells you anything. Thanks in advance
MrBill Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 Create condition that will never be true and apply it to your "My Programs" folder. i use "If $cTrue = $cFalse but you can use anything for this test, pick a variable that you already have established and do something like "if $Variable = -99999999" This will temporarily stop all your programs from running. Did the ISY immediately get better? If so, then you have a run away program. To find the runaway, remove the program condition when it's at a snails pace again, view the program summary tab and sort by activity column. anything not idle is a suspect. An Example of a runaway program: if $stateVariable <> 0 then $stateVariable =+ 1 else <none> that program will count very fast and slow down your ISY. 4
Blackbird Posted June 24, 2022 Author Posted June 24, 2022 I logged into the ISY to try what you suggested and before doing anything, it seems to be running fine now. Not sure why. If it happens again I will try your suggestion. Thank you
larryllix Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Blackbird said: I logged into the ISY to try what you suggested and before doing anything, it seems to be running fine now. Not sure why. If it happens again I will try your suggestion. Thank you Either your comm noise that was causing the congestion went away, or your offending program stopped.
Geddy Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 @Blackbird rather than waiting for it to happen again I would reboot the ISY994 and see if it happened when it first starts up. I had an issue like this a few months ago with a new program that was triggered to always make sure an outlet was on. It trashed the system when it first booted up, but settled down after a while. Perhaps you were having that issue at startup. I would suggest fixing it rather than thinking it went away and won't happen again. It's always bound to happen when you least expect (or want) it to happen. The info that @MrBill gave helped me fix my issue. I wasn't certain exactly what was going on, but found the offending program quickly and disabled it and things returned to normal. 1
Blackbird Posted June 25, 2022 Author Posted June 25, 2022 On 6/23/2022 at 9:12 AM, MrBill said: Create condition that will never be true and apply it to your "My Programs" folder. i use "If $cTrue = $cFalse but you can use anything for this test, pick a variable that you already have established and do something like "if $Variable = -99999999" This will temporarily stop all your programs from running. Did the ISY immediately get better? If so, then you have a run away program. To find the runaway, remove the program condition when it's at a snails pace again, view the program summary tab and sort by activity column. anything not idle is a suspect. An Example of a runaway program: if $stateVariable <> 0 then $stateVariable =+ 1 else <none> that program will count very fast and slow down your ISY. Im a bit unclear about the program you suggest. I have a variable $Int_1. Should it be if $Init_1 is -99999999 Then What do I put here?
MrBill Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 Program FOLDERS don't accept an entire program they only accept a condition (i.e. and IF statement). There is no THEN or ELSE for a folder Condition. click on "My Programs" (or whatever the folder name is at the top of your program tree if it was changed or migrated from very old ISY versions), then in the right side of the window add your "if $Init_1 is -99999999" Once you press the 'save' button, that will make the "My Programs" folder false and nothing below it can run. (For those reading along, yes folder conditions are powerful, but they can also be trouble if you're not used to there effects. If a program condition is false nothing below it will run, not manually or not when run by another program.... it's the equivalent of completely deselecting the entire tree below that point. The moral: use with care, it's not like a regular program IF statement.)
AndrewW Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 I ran into a similar issue recently, and it turned out I had connected to my ISY via https instead of http. That caused intermittent errors in the console, and made it load pages extremely slowly. So make sure you're using a http:// URL to access your Console! (Toosl > About, and it'll show "My URL" there). Also make sure your Firmware and UI versions match -- I had also been using an old launcher so the UI was version 4.x and the firmware was 5.3.4 and that caused some issues too.
Blackbird Posted June 26, 2022 Author Posted June 26, 2022 13 hours ago, MrBill said: Program FOLDERS don't accept an entire program they only accept a condition (i.e. and IF statement). There is no THEN or ELSE for a folder Condition. click on "My Programs" (or whatever the folder name is at the top of your program tree if it was changed or migrated from very old ISY versions), then in the right side of the window add your "if $Init_1 is -99999999" Once you press the 'save' button, that will make the "My Programs" folder false and nothing below it can run. (For those reading along, yes folder conditions are powerful, but they can also be trouble if you're not used to there effects. If a program condition is false nothing below it will run, not manually or not when run by another program.... it's the equivalent of completely deselecting the entire tree below that point. The moral: use with care, it's not like a regular program IF statement.) Oh ok I got it now. I see a little red bar on the left of the folder. So far I dont notice a problem but i didnt today anyway. If it is a runnaway program, how do you tell if all programs are now disabled?
Blackbird Posted June 26, 2022 Author Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, AndrewW said: I ran into a similar issue recently, and it turned out I had connected to my ISY via https instead of http. That caused intermittent errors in the console, and made it load pages extremely slowly. So make sure you're using a http:// URL to access your Console! (Toosl > About, and it'll show "My URL" there). Also make sure your Firmware and UI versions match -- I had also been using an old launcher so the UI was version 4.x and the firmware was 5.3.4 and that caused some issues too. Thanks, I am using http and the versions match. 1
MrBill Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 9 hours ago, Blackbird said: If it is a runnaway program, how do you tell if all programs are now disabled? mentioned that above, here it is again: On 6/23/2022 at 10:12 AM, MrBill said: To find the runaway, remove the program condition when it's at a snails pace again, view the program summary tab and sort by activity column. anything not idle is a suspect. if you can't pick the runaway out of the non-idle programs then post the running programs and we can help you identify which one. (to post programs: right click the program name and pick "copy to clipboard" (the last item) and then paste into a forum post.) Hint tho: if a program says 'running' via the activity column and it has a long 'wait' statement in it, it's probably not that one, waits are idle time. Another hint sometime I've seen where it actually looks like "running" in the activity column is flashing... that's likely a runaway.
Blackbird Posted June 26, 2022 Author Posted June 26, 2022 In 2 days I have had a random water sensor go off when no water was present and I noticed in the log all these wireless tags. Im not using the tags and the trans/rec is unplugged. Why is the log showing all these nodes exactly every single minute and what is its purpose? Is it pinging the node? Is this what triggered my water sensor to go off 1 second later (if so how?)? Is this what is slowing down my ISY? 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MrBill Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 That might well be related. If you're not using tags you need to stop the wireless tags node server, and to keep it stopped after a reboot it really needs to be deleted from polyglot. Custom Control 14 = GV14 and all mine are showing zero whereas your seem to be importing a large value. Don't know what to make of it, but stop and optionally delete the node server if you're not using tags at the moment.
Blackbird Posted June 26, 2022 Author Posted June 26, 2022 3 hours ago, MrBill said: That might well be related. If you're not using tags you need to stop the wireless tags node server, and to keep it stopped after a reboot it really needs to be deleted from polyglot. Custom Control 14 = GV14 and all mine are showing zero whereas your seem to be importing a large value. Don't know what to make of it, but stop and optionally delete the node server if you're not using tags at the moment. Will do, thanks
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