jtara92101 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 I'd like to better understand the add-on OpenADR Production Certificate. I've moved to a new (old) home, and want to order an eISY as a replacement for my existing ISY994i and Polisy. (As well, I've a developer, and interested in what I can do in the super-niche area of steam heat... perhaps some AI to model house heat gain/loss, see if there's some way to optimize use of a steam heating system in conjunction with a heat pump (currently, no A/C, heat pump might be more economical just to "take the chill out" in spring/fall), remote-adjustable air valves, etc. My electric utility just started TOU billing so interested in high-level management of loads). Anyway, I've got a meter that I'm unsure if I can read with eISY, will get to that in a sec. My main concern is, I want to get the eISY ordered, and uncertain exactly what to order. Is eisy | OpenADR just eisy with a production certificate? Is OpenADR capability able to be added later by adding a production certificate? Is any add-on hardware needed to communicate with a meter? I notice there's a (small) discount ordering eisy | OpenADR vs adding certificate later, though that's not a big concern. Maybe somebody can comment on my meter, while we're at it: OpenWay by Itron, Centron. CL200 240V 3W TYPE C2S0D 30TA 1 OKh, dated 9/11 FCC ID 5K9AMI5JC-AMI6, MODULE: AMI6 Utility is DTE (Michigan). Does the utility have to do something, or do I have to get some code or certificate or something from them? Anything needed to add to this? Advisable to wait for ZMater USB to be out of beta? I've got a ton of Insteon, some of which I will use, some Hue bulbs and strips, a little bit of Wiz, want to explore WLED. a few Sonoff S31 that I haven't flashed yet that I've been using to measure critical and constant loads (generator or battery still a necessity in the offing, welcome to Michigan!) Link to comment
Solution Michel Kohanim Posted July 4, 2023 Solution Share Posted July 4, 2023 @jtara92101, If your utility have not told you anything about OpenADR, then just get the normal version. You can always install an OpenADR Certificate later. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
jtara92101 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 Thanks, Michael. Good to know it's just a software entitlement/download. I found this: https://www.dteenergy.com/us/en/insight/insight-features.html Energy Bridge is a ZigBee dongle that provides real-time data directly from the meter. I'll check with DTE to see if I'm eligible. Can eISY talk to the bridge? OpenADR is for this, or for talking to an Internet API? Looks like they are using this (Powerley) bridge currently. And I came across threads talking about connecting to it with Home Assistant. So, assume I'll be able to talk to it once I get one. https://csa-iot.org/csa_product/energy-bridge-2/ There's a reasonable $1.99/mo subscription fee. Thinking this has nothing to do with OpenADR - which is a separate concern, right? Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 @jtara92101, For real time energy information, you can use Vue. eisy does not talk to DTE bridge. No, you cannot talk to Powerley through eisy unless you make a node server for it. But, I do not see the purpose if you can get your energy information using Vue and don't have to pay any subscriptions. None of the above has anything do with OpenADR. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
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