rick.curl Posted September 14, 2023 Posted September 14, 2023 One of my Insteon 2475F's just failed and I'm looking for a substitute. I've got the light handled, but I need a way to control the speed of the fan motor. It's an older Hunter fan, so the motor is inductive (not the newer DC one). Can anyone recommend a Zigbee or Z-wave module that will allow speed control of an inductive load? I could get by with one that mounts in a wall box, but I'd prefer a small one I can shove inside the fan canopy. Thanks for any suggestions! -Rick
kzboray Posted September 14, 2023 Posted September 14, 2023 @rick.curl I'm not sure if you are trying to move away from Insteon, but you can still purchase new 2475F's from Insteon. https://www.insteon.com/ceiling-fan-controller Otherwise any z-wave relay would work. Here's some from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=z-wave+relay&crid=FZCBXAEY40CP&sprefix=z-wave+relay%2Caps%2C181&ref=nb_sb_noss_1 1
hart2hart Posted September 14, 2023 Posted September 14, 2023 I use the Bond hub and Bond BS tocontrol a 15 year old inductive fan’s on/off and speed. Bond directly links with Alexa if that’s of interest.
rick.curl Posted September 14, 2023 Author Posted September 14, 2023 5 hours ago, kzboray said: @rick.curl I'm not sure if you are trying to move away from Insteon, but you can still purchase new 2475F's from Insteon. https://www.insteon.com/ceiling-fan-controller Otherwise any z-wave relay would work. Here's some from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=z-wave+relay&crid=FZCBXAEY40CP&sprefix=z-wave+relay%2Caps%2C181&ref=nb_sb_noss_1 I didn't know the 2475F's were still available- but I've got mixed emotions about that. The Z-wave relays will only turn the fan on or off. I need speed control- and most dimmers will not work with an inductive load.
rick.curl Posted September 14, 2023 Author Posted September 14, 2023 3 hours ago, hart2hart said: I use the Bond hub and Bond BS to control a 15 year old inductive fan’s on/off and speed. Bond directly links with Alexa if that’s of interest. I saw a thread about the Bond devices- but I hate to add a hub just to support one device. Not using Alexa. I'm keeping the whole thing arranged so I won't be dependent on the Internet.
atmarosi Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 Bond is the way to go unfortunately - it's solid and just works. Sometimes it'll lose track of the light state (but I thin it's because my kids are impatient) but you can always fix via the app. Get the Pro - it's ridiculously priced; but PoE, and stability is alllll there. It's got a local API that the Bond PolyGlot NS works with locally so you can keep it off the internets and on the local network easily.
rick.curl Posted September 16, 2023 Author Posted September 16, 2023 OK- I can't afford the Bond Pro- so if I get the basic Bond bridge, what do I install in the fan to control the motor? Bond's website has little specific information about fan control. If I go the Bond route, do I have to use the Bond app to control the fan? I'd much prefer to have the Eisy control everything. Sorry to be asking dumb questions. I've been trying to research this online, but I'm getting lots of conflicting info. Thanks for the help. -Rick
tlightne Posted September 16, 2023 Posted September 16, 2023 @rick.curl I am using the Bond basic bridge with two different ceiling fans. You install any remote control fan kit in the fan and set the bridge to find it. You can control the fan by using the remote that comes with the kit or your Eisy with the bond node server. I have had no issued with the Bond bridge..
landolfi Posted September 16, 2023 Posted September 16, 2023 (edited) Just saw this, but I am using a GE Enbrighten Zwave switch that is capable of fan control for an older Hunter fan: https://www.amazon.com/GE-Enbrighten-Required-SmartThings-14287/dp/B06XTKQTTV/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1OYLFOXEEMQ4L&keywords=ge+enbrighten+fan+control&qid=1694875493&sprefix=ge+enbrighten+fan%2Caps%2C107&sr=8-1. When included in IoX, it doesn't have discrete speed controls but there are discussions elsewhere here about using programs to accomplish that. As I recall when I originally had it connected to Smartthings it did have discrete speeds, and there is a request in that discussion about programming speed controls to have the discrete speeds supported in the IoX Zwave node properties. Edited September 16, 2023 by landolfi
atmarosi Posted September 16, 2023 Posted September 16, 2023 You can really use any compatible RF based remote device for the fan. Minka fans are what I have it connected to. they have a search feature to look up FCC codes of devices to see if it’s compatible: https://bondhome.io/supported-devices/
hart2hart Posted September 16, 2023 Posted September 16, 2023 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Hampton-Bay-3-Speed-Universal-Ceiling-Fan-Premier-Remote-Control-Damp-Rated-98131/313437565
rick.curl Posted September 16, 2023 Author Posted September 16, 2023 I just ordered the Embrighten fan control. Hope I can get it jammed inside the fan canopy. I'll be travelling all next week, but when I return I'll post my results installing it. Thanks to all for the great info! -Rick
rick.curl Posted September 27, 2023 Author Posted September 27, 2023 I've got the Enbrighten fan control on my workbench. I can set any of the speeds from the paddle switch on the device, but so far I can only turn it on or off through my Eisy. I have fiddled with programs to set the speed, but to no avail. Any suggestions? Thanks. -Rick
JTsao Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 I have 2 of these and set the speed as follows: Set 'Master Suite / Devices / MBR CF ZW030' 25% BTW - at one time I had 5-6 Fanlincs in my house - they are all gone now with most locations replaced by an Insteon On-Off switch and a ceiing fan capacitor wired into the canopy to set the speed (of course, the fan only has 1 speed using this method, but I have found this to be sufficient once I set the right speed)
tlightne Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 @rick.curl This is a program I use to set my bedroom ceiling fan with Zwave Enbrighten switch..
landolfi Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 I don't use this, but I found this program when I moved the Enbrighten to IoX. The idea is to capture the state of the paddle control and set fan speed accordingly, there are 3 altogether, this is #1: Media Room Ceiling Fan 1 - [ID 001D][Parent 0001] If 'Media Room Ceiling Fan' Status > Off And 'Media Room Ceiling Fan' Status <= 32% Then Set 'Media Room Ceiling Fan' 33% $Media_Room_Fan_Speed = 1 Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I can't find the discussion now but there is one here somewhere about this exact program. If I recall correctly the speed variable enables you to track the current speed setting. For me, I just set the speed manually the way I like and then have Alexa turn it on or off.
rick.curl Posted October 2, 2023 Author Posted October 2, 2023 Thanks for the responses! This will get me going. Much appreciated! -Rick
jkosharek Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 I have installed Bond in a few homes now and have great luck with it.
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