MorningLinc

[CopyRon]

Any idea when we'll see support for this in the ISY?

[Michel Kohanim]

Hello CopyRon,

 

Hopefully within two weeks. We are currently working on SHN devices.

 

On the other hand, if we would have to actually purchase a Morning lock, then it might take longer.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[Brian H]

Well I got an email today from Smarthome.

One of the newly released devices is the MorningLinc the other is their iGateway.

http://www.smarthome.com/2458A1/Morning ... =HML10RA59

 

http://www.smarthome.com/2423A4/iGatewa ... way/p.aspx

 

The sales page changed for the MorningLinc. When I looked it was marked in stock now it says 06/14/2010 for estimated shipping date.

[toups]

Any updates for support of the Morninglinc RF Insteon module?

[brad77]

Just to add to this thread, I spoke with someone at Smarthome yesterday about the MorningLinc RF module and confirmed that it is one-way only. That is to say that it can only be used to send lock/unlock commands to your locksets. It cannot "hear" or respond to keyfob presses.

[Brian H]

Any developer that has access to the code area.

There is a Developers Notes file recently added for the MorningLinc RF Module.

[IndyMike]

Hello Brad77,

 

You're correct that the Morninglinc is a one way transmit only device. It cannot hear/relay other keyfob transmissions (it's not a repeater) nor does the Morning Lock transmit it's status (it's receive only).

 

I've been using the predecessor to the Morninglinc which consists of two IOLincs interfaced to a Morning Keyfob. One IOLinc controls the lock function, the other controls the unlock. This system has been working well for 10 months now on the two most heavily used doors on my home. I use a ELK monitored door switch to detect when the door has been opened. The ELK in turn signals the ISY that the door has been unlocked and opened. The ISY then locks the door after a programmed time period. Lock confirmation is provided using an Inductive proximity sensor that detects the position of the deadbolt (ELK monitored).

 

I have a post on this over here - http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?t=3642&highlight=

 

The MorningLinc takes the lock/unlock function (previously provided using two IOLincs) and combines it into one device. It also incorporates the KeyFob within the body of the device (much nicer aesthetics). I have two of the MoningLincs and have checked the range and open closed functions of the devices. They appear to function reliably, but I have not as yet been able to integrate them with the ISY.

 

Note to Michel - the above was not a "dig" on the Morninglinc support. I understand that you are focusing on the ELK/variable support and value these items far more.

 

IM

[Michel Kohanim]

Hi IndyMike,

 

The following is our priorities:

ELK, EZxx (done), MorningLinc, and GarageHawk.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[Baypointe]

I don’t often post my wants to this form but for the sake of letting you know what is important to your customers. I too would like the new morning RF.

Your list of priorities is right in line with my needs. Elk/Morning RF/EZXX as I am currently deploying these and I am having trouble telling people that it will do all of this cool things..... not today but tomorrow.

They just say that “I will buy it tomorrow â€

 

Arm your alarm and it will shut off lights, lock all doors and turn down your thermostat.

Disarm your alarm and it unlocks your doors turns on the lights and adjust your thermostat welcoming your home. It has been a great selling line for me right up to the point I tell them the limitations.

 

No response needed Michael. Just throwing my hat in the ring so you can determine what is most important for your time.

 

Jim

[Michel Kohanim]

Hello Jim,

 

Thanks so very much for your feedback which is most valuable since, in the trenches, we do not always see or know the big picture.

 

MorningLinc should be out shortly. EZxx is already done and being tested. ELK is being worked on though slower than what I had hoped for.

 

Thanks again and with kind regards,

Michel

[Bernhard]

I just tried adding my new MorningLinc 2458A1 and I get an error message. Is the device supported yet?

[LeeG]

Bernhard,

 

Not to step on Michel's toes, Saturday is normally a day off for the UDI folks. MorningLinc is not yet supported. My understanding is that support is in active development with deploy soon. I think they also want to deploy Elk at the same time which may delay deploy some weeks.

 

Lee

[Michel Kohanim]

LeeG,

 

Thank so very much! You are right on!!!

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[edfinley]

Thanks for staying one step ahead. You guys never stop improving the product!

Regards,

Ed

[vijosoco]

Any information regarding full support for the GarageHawk device? Or perhaps some way to respond to the customer messages that it generates?

 

Thanks!

[Michel Kohanim]

Hello vijosoco,

 

We do have plans for supporting it though it does not currently have a high priority.

 

With kind regards,

Michel

[oah]

Hello Indy

I am very interested in monitoring the postion of my deadbolts. Can you please elaborate further on how you accomplished this? What type of Inductive Proximity sensor did you use and how did you connect it to the Elk?

Thanks so much for the help.

oah

 

Hello Brad77,

 

You're correct that the Morninglinc is a one way transmit only device. It cannot hear/relay other keyfob transmissions (it's not a repeater) nor does the Morning Lock transmit it's status (it's receive only).

 

I've been using the predecessor to the Morninglinc which consists of two IOLincs interfaced to a Morning Keyfob. One IOLinc controls the lock function, the other controls the unlock. This system has been working well for 10 months now on the two most heavily used doors on my home. I use a ELK monitored door switch to detect when the door has been opened. The ELK in turn signals the ISY that the door has been unlocked and opened. The ISY then locks the door after a programmed time period. Lock confirmation is provided using an Inductive proximity sensor that detects the position of the deadbolt (ELK monitored).

 

I have a post on this over here - http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?t=3642&highlight=

 

The MorningLinc takes the lock/unlock function (previously provided using two IOLincs) and combines it into one device. It also incorporates the KeyFob within the body of the device (much nicer aesthetics). I have two of the MoningLincs and have checked the range and open closed functions of the devices. They appear to function reliably, but I have not as yet been able to integrate them with the ISY.

 

Note to Michel - the above was not a "dig" on the Morninglinc support. I understand that you are focusing on the ELK/variable support and value these items far more.

 

IM

[IndyMike]

Hello Oah,

 

I have a post over at Cocoontech with links to the sensors: http://www.cocoontech.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=8161&view=findpost&p=142687

 

The post shows how I used the devices to monitor the Lock/Unlock status of a Pella Sliding Door Footlock.

 

The devices can be powered from the 12 Vdc Aux outputs on your Elk panel. The outputs are available in both PNP and NPN (I believe I've used both) and are run to the Zone output (Z1 - Z16) or your panel. Add a resistor to the negative terminal to establish the On/Off level for the panel and you are done.

 

Note: I have each of my sensors connected to a separate Zone on the panel. This allows me to monitor which doors are locked/unlocked but it consumes a lot of zones (11 zones in my home). There should be a way of "or-tying" these so that you get an indication if any of the locks were disabled. You would only need 1 zone input at the panel, but would require external circuitry to perform the "or function".

 

If you need more specifics, I'll have to dig around. It's been awhile...

 

IM

[brad77]

Nice work, IndyMike! Those proximity sensors seem relatively small, but I'm not clear about how they're installed. Are they small enough to hide? Do you just run the wire down the door jamb or do you have to dig a channel?

 

For a front-door scenario, are they conspicuous?

 

I wonder if GE compatible wireless proximity sensors exist.

[IndyMike]

Nice work, IndyMike! Those proximity sensors seem relatively small, but I'm not clear about how they're installed. Are they small enough to hide? Do you just run the wire down the door jamb or do you have to dig a channel?

 

For a front-door scenario, are they conspicuous?

 

I wonder if GE compatible wireless proximity sensors exist.

 

Hi Brad,

 

It's more along the lines of "dig a channel". Most of my doors were single swingers with casing on all sides. These I had pre-wired when we were building the house in '2000. Installing the sensors required removing the casing, and routing/drilling the 2x4 backer to accept the sensor below the deadbolt. The wires were then run between the door jamb/drywall (under the casing) to the floor. I drilled through the floor to access the basement.

 

The front door had a side-light on the deadbolt side. This was a challenge. There was nothing to remove to gain access (no trim - just the sidelight). As a result, I enlisted the help of my neighbor - an 80+ year old "master craftsmen" who installs the custom curved staircases in the $2M+ homes in our area (probably taught Norm the trade). I made a custom Aluminum strike (floor to head). After routing, drilling, Chiseling and all other manner of wood forming we finished. Not a job for the lighthearted.

 

I think I could have done it myself, but it would have taken a week and wouldn't have turned out half as nice. As it is, I've been paying off the favor for two years - I bring the beer for the ND VS Purdue games (he's the ND fan). I figure I'll have the debt payed by 2018 (we don't drink as much as we once did).