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23 hours ago, bmercier said:

Please run a package upgrade. The latest IoX is required. Let me know if that fixes everything, or not.

@bmercier IoX is at 5.9.1 and PG3x at 3.3.19 with eisyui 0.4.1 installed.  For kicks I restarted the eisy anyway after clicking "Upgrade Packages", but same versions before and after, and no change in results.

Edited June 6Jun 6 by glarsen

Just got on board today with 0.4.1 & it sparked up without issue.... oh the potential !!!

thanks @bmercier & UDI team !

9 minutes ago, glarsen said:

IoX is at 5.9.1 and PG3x at 3.3.19.  For kicks I restarted the eisy anyway after clicking "Upgrade Packages", but same versions before and after, and no change in results.

Please install this IoX build:
isy-5.9.1_21.pkg

sudo pkg add -f isy-5.9.1_21.pkg
sudo service isy restart

The latest IoX published release might be missing required fixes.


 

1 hour ago, bmercier said:

Please install this IoX build:
isy-5.9.1_21.pkg

sudo pkg add -f isy-5.9.1_21.pkg
sudo service isy restart

The latest IoX published release might be missing required fixes.


 

Unfortunately after updating isy it will not connect to the portal. Locally everything is working but will not connect to the portal

9 hours ago, tazman said:

Unfortunately after updating isy it will not connect to the portal. Locally everything is working but will not connect to the portal

When eisy-ui is installed, IoX does not connect to portal. eisy-ui does.

So if you have no portal connection, make sure eisy-ui service is running. If it is, restart it and watch the logs.

There has been a few reports of errors like "Error loading node <node address>: Profiles loaded but nodedefs missing"

Does anyone have tiles configured with insteon successfully?

If so, did you have to install isy-5.9.1_21.pkg ?

Anyone with isy-5.9.1_21.pkg that still can't get insteon to work? If so, please restart the isy service. 

To troubleshoot this further, take a non-working node and use this url:
https://eisy.local:8443/rest/nodes/<node address>/profiles

The error normally means that there are no nodedefs at this url.

1 hour ago, bmercier said:

There has been a few reports of errors like "Error loading node <node address>: Profiles loaded but nodedefs missing"

Does anyone have tiles configured with insteon successfully?

If so, did you have to install isy-5.9.1_21.pkg ?

Anyone with isy-5.9.1_21.pkg that still can't get insteon to work? If so, please restart the isy service. 

To troubleshoot this further, take a non-working node and use this url:
https://eisy.local:8443/rest/nodes/<node address>/profiles

The error normally means that there are no nodedefs at this url.

@bmercier I upgraded to isy-5.9.1_21.pkg, needed to reboot to get isy service restart as it was Waiting for PIDS: xxxx forever.  

Didn't solve the nodedefs missing issue.

When I do the "troubleshoot further" uri:

https://eisy.local:8443/rest/nodes/55 79 DE 1/profiles

it works fine and gives me data:

{"timestamp":"2025-06-07T09:35:58.609185-04:00","families":[{"id":"1","name":"","instances":[{"id":"1","name":"","nodedefs":[{"id":"BinaryAlarm_ADV","properties":[{"id":"ST","editor":"I_OL_RELAY","name":"Status"},{"id":"ERR","editor":"I_ERR","hide":true,"name":"Responding"}],"cmds":{"sends":[{"id":"DON","name":"On"},{"id":"DOF","name":"Off"},{"id":"DFON","name":"Fast On"},{"id":"DFOF","name":"Fast Off"}],"accepts":[{"id":"QUERY","name":"Query"},{"id":"BEEP","name":"Beep","format":"/level/${c}/${c} ${v}/","parameters":[{"id":"","editor":"I_BEEP_255","optional":true}]},{"id":"WDU","name":"Write Changes"}]},"links":{"ctl":["I_CTL_RELAY_ADV"],"rsp":[]}}]}]}]}

To be clear on the eisy-ux still getting:

Error loading node 55 79 DE 1: Profiles loaded but nodedefs missing

 

2 hours ago, bmercier said:

When eisy-ui is installed, IoX does not connect to portal. eisy-ui does.

So if you have no portal connection, make sure eisy-ui service is running. If it is, restart it and watch the logs.

I reinstalled eisy-ui and it came online with the portal but I have found every time eisy is restarted I have to perform  "sudo service eisyui restart" to get the eisy-ui to load and the system to show online in the portal.

3 hours ago, bmercier said:

There has been a few reports of errors like "Error loading node <node address>: Profiles loaded but nodedefs missing"

Does anyone have tiles configured with insteon successfully?

If so, did you have to install isy-5.9.1_21.pkg ?

Anyone with isy-5.9.1_21.pkg that still can't get insteon to work? If so, please restart the isy service. 

To troubleshoot this further, take a non-working node and use this url:
https://eisy.local:8443/rest/nodes/<node address>/profiles

The error normally means that there are no nodedefs at this url.

@bmercier I also have the same results as @sjenkins after upgrading to 5.9.1_21 and rebooting.

The rest command gives this, which seems normal:

{"timestamp":"2025-06-07T08:26:11.581210-07:00","families":[{"id":"1","name":"","instances":[{"id":"1","name":"","nodedefs":[{"id":"RelayLampSwitch_ADV","nls":"147","properties":[{"id":"ST","editor":"I_OL_RELAY","name":"Status"},{"id":"ERR","editor":"I_ERR","hide":true,"name":"Responding"}],"cmds":{"sends":[{"id":"DON","name":"On"},{"id":"DOF","name":"Off"},{"id":"DFOF","name":"Fast Off"},{"id":"DFON","name":"Fast On"},{"id":"FDUP","name":"Fade Up"},{"id":"FDDOWN","name":"Fade Down"},{"id":"FDSTOP","name":"Fade Stop"}],"accepts":[{"id":"DON","name":"On","parameters":[{"id":"","editor":"I_0_100_PERCENT","optional":true}]},{"id":"DOF","name":"Off"},{"id":"DFOF","name":"Fast Off"},{"id":"DFON","name":"Fast On"},{"id":"QUERY","name":"Query"},{"id":"BEEP","name":"Beep","format":"/level/${c}/${c} ${v}/","parameters":[{"id":"","editor":"I_BEEP_255","optional":true}]},{"id":"BL","name":"Backlight","parameters":[{"id":"","editor":"I_BL"}]},{"id":"WDU","name":"Write Changes"}]},"links":{"ctl":["I_CTL_DIMMER_ADV"],"rsp":["I_RELAY","I_RELAY_ADV"]}}]}]}]}

Still receiving "Error loading node 2A 43 78 1: Profiles loaded but nodedefs missing", same on all Insteon nodes

2 hours ago, tazman said:

I reinstalled eisy-ui and it came online with the portal but I have found every time eisy is restarted I have to perform  "sudo service eisyui restart" to get the eisy-ui to load and the system to show online in the portal.

Will be fixed in the next release, thanks

1 hour ago, glarsen said:

@bmercier I also have the same results as @sjenkins after upgrading to 5.9.1_21 and rebooting.

The rest command gives this, which seems normal:

{"timestamp":"2025-06-07T08:26:11.581210-07:00","families":[{"id":"1","name":"","instances":[{"id":"1","name":"","nodedefs":[{"id":"RelayLampSwitch_ADV","nls":"147","properties":[{"id":"ST","editor":"I_OL_RELAY","name":"Status"},{"id":"ERR","editor":"I_ERR","hide":true,"name":"Responding"}],"cmds":{"sends":[{"id":"DON","name":"On"},{"id":"DOF","name":"Off"},{"id":"DFOF","name":"Fast Off"},{"id":"DFON","name":"Fast On"},{"id":"FDUP","name":"Fade Up"},{"id":"FDDOWN","name":"Fade Down"},{"id":"FDSTOP","name":"Fade Stop"}],"accepts":[{"id":"DON","name":"On","parameters":[{"id":"","editor":"I_0_100_PERCENT","optional":true}]},{"id":"DOF","name":"Off"},{"id":"DFOF","name":"Fast Off"},{"id":"DFON","name":"Fast On"},{"id":"QUERY","name":"Query"},{"id":"BEEP","name":"Beep","format":"/level/${c}/${c} ${v}/","parameters":[{"id":"","editor":"I_BEEP_255","optional":true}]},{"id":"BL","name":"Backlight","parameters":[{"id":"","editor":"I_BL"}]},{"id":"WDU","name":"Write Changes"}]},"links":{"ctl":["I_CTL_DIMMER_ADV"],"rsp":["I_RELAY","I_RELAY_ADV"]}}]}]}]}

Still receiving "Error loading node 2A 43 78 1: Profiles loaded but nodedefs missing", same on all Insteon nodes

@glarsen, @sjenkins
Please PM me with the result of:
/rest/profiles?include=editors,nodedefs,linkdefs
/rest/nodes
 

1 hour ago, bmercier said:

@glarsen, @sjenkins
Please PM me with the result of:
/rest/profiles?include=editors,nodedefs,linkdefs
/rest/nodes
 

@bmercier  done.

3 hours ago, bmercier said:

@glarsen, @sjenkins
Please PM me with the result of:
/rest/profiles?include=editors,nodedefs,linkdefs
/rest/nodes
 

@bmercier done.

21 hours ago, bmercier said:

Please install this IoX build:
isy-5.9.1_21.pkg

sudo pkg add -f isy-5.9.1_21.pkg
sudo service isy restart

The latest IoX published release might be missing required fixes.


 

pkg add tells me to use pkg install???

Add one more to the tally of users that have nodedef issues for insteon only items.  ZWave and zigbee things seem to work OK.

Hue bulbs added via zigbee direct have some issues.  There is no way to direct set a color temperature. Also the stepping is backwards (to me).  If you set it to step "Down" in temp, the K increases (4000K to 4016K).  "Up" does the opposite.  

@sjenkins & @glarsen thanks for the files. The problem was in eisy-ui, not IoX.

Here's a new build with the fix for Insteon nodes & more:

 

48 minutes ago, proj964 said:

pkg add tells me to use pkg install???

Please post the exact command and result that you get.

33 minutes ago, BamBamF16 said:

Add one more to the tally of users that have nodedef issues for insteon only items.  ZWave and zigbee things seem to work OK.

0.4.2 should fix it.

26 minutes ago, BamBamF16 said:

Hue bulbs added via zigbee direct have some issues.  There is no way to direct set a color temperature. Also the stepping is backwards (to me).  If you set it to step "Down" in temp, the K increases (4000K to 4016K).  "Up" does the opposite.  

Can you check if this works in the admin console?

21 minutes ago, bmercier said:

@sjenkins & @glarsen thanks for the files. The problem was in eisy-ui, not IoX.

Here's a new build with the fix for Insteon nodes & more:

 

Looks good @bmercier.  Thanks.  Tinkering continues....

1 hour ago, bmercier said:

@sjenkins & @glarsen thanks for the files. The problem was in eisy-ui, not IoX.

Here's a new build with the fix for Insteon nodes & more:

 

Yes, fixed, & thank you.

Should the status column in nodes be populated?

The controls work fine but the column is blank & in the details pop-out status is just shown by the label, no content.

1 minute ago, sjenkins said:

Yes, fixed, & thank you.

Should the status column in nodes be populated?

The controls work fine but the column is blank & in the details pop-out status is just shown by the label, no content.

No that’s not normal. Is the problem only with Insteon nodes? Can you have the same problem in admin console?

If this works in admin console but not eisy-ui, there may be errors showing in the server log or browser console. But that would be a first to me, this should work well.

18 minutes ago, bmercier said:

No that’s not normal. Is the problem only with Insteon nodes? Can you have the same problem in admin console?

If this works in admin console but not eisy-ui, there may be errors showing in the server log or browser console. But that would be a first to me, this should work well.

So this is new as of today, see my IoX launcher, ignore the Polisy obviously.

The eisy without the 8443 is populated automatically & if launched does not work properly, comes up with a:

The one with the port 8443 I had to add manually and works as expected.

Is this related to the last issue? btw: :  I did do a reboot to "cycle the power".

I did update my ISY to the 5.9.1_21 version.

also, to answer one of your questions Insteon & plugin nodes, so all of my nodes show no status.

 

 

Edited June 7Jun 7 by sjenkins

11 minutes ago, sjenkins said:

 

The one with the port 8443 I had to add manually and works as expected.

 

Is this before logging in or after?

12 minutes ago, sjenkins said:

also, to answer one of your questions Insteon & plugin nodes, so all of my nodes show no status.

That's weird. Were you seing statuses in the previous release?

Please check the eisy-ui log for errors soon after startup. Statuses are obtained on a mqtt connection, so I'm wondering if the connection succeeds or not.