GreyFox Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 I have successfully performed the steps specified in Section 3.7, Interfacing with the Elk, of the ISY-99i User Guide. However, I do not see a Security System tab on my ISY's HTML interface. Consequently, I am concerned that I am not properly conneected. What can/should I do?
TJF1960 Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 Hello GreyFox, What rev. of the ISY are you running? Tim
GreyFox Posted December 31, 2011 Author Posted December 31, 2011 I think it is version 2.8.16. I have no idea how to tell what version of firmware I have. I have uploaded a picture of what I get when I go to Help About.
tgutwin Posted December 31, 2011 Posted December 31, 2011 You will need to be running one of the ISY new 3.1.X beta firmware versions to run the ELK module. Minimum 3.1.13. See http://www.universal-devices.com/mwiki/ ... ity_Module which has all the supported firmware versions for ElkRP and ISY. tom
sanders2222 Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 I'd recommend the latest version, currently 3.1.16. http://forum.universal-devices.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=7702[/u This version clears up some bugs and other problems found in the earlier versions. Follow the steps listed, remember to clear your Java cache and load the corresponding applet]http://www.universal-devices.com/99i/3.1.16/admin.jnlp
GreyFox Posted January 1, 2012 Author Posted January 1, 2012 So, I think I'm a little confused. I have not purchased or installed the Elk Module. Do I need to do this in order for my ISY-99i and Elk M1G to interact? I thought all I had to do was set up my Insteon devices on the ISY-99i with the Java applet, export my file for the Elk, and then import the file with the ElkRP software. all of the Insteon devices show up properly in the Lighting section of the Automation folder. I have created Rules in the Automation folder which appear to do everything they are supposed to do but turn lights on properly. I guess I also have to ask for instructions on how to update the firmware on the ISY99i as well.
sanders2222 Posted January 1, 2012 Posted January 1, 2012 Do I need to do this (install module) in order for my ISY-99i and Elk M1G to interact? My best response is yes and no. There is some capability to get the ISY to react to some things generated by the ELK. But the module is advertised to provide complete integration between the ISY and the ELK. Anyway, that's my understanding. I bought the module (it's still on sale I think) and have the latest ISY firmware update which shows the tabs for the ELK panel. However, I am in the middle of wiring my new ELK into my house so my tabs are pretty much blank at the moment.
Michel Kohanim Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 GreyFox, You absolutely do NOT need the ELK module. The most basic reason for buying the ELK module is "where do you want your rules to run"? If you are comfortable with the rules running in ELK (those that deal with alarm state and communicating with ISY), then you are all set. All you have to do is to export your lighting to ELK and then program rules. If you want your rules to reside in ISY, then you would need the ELK module. I hope this answers your question. With kind regards, Michel
GreyFox Posted January 2, 2012 Author Posted January 2, 2012 Michel, I have performed the upgrade to 3.1.16. I presume that when the rules reside in the Elk, it nonetheless executes them via the ISY-99i. And if this presumption is correct, it seems to me there must be some way to verify the communication between the Elk and the ISY-99i. However, I see no way to perform this verification. I do not get the Security tab, nor do I get the Security System Bar. I have attached a screen shot. So where do I look next.
Michel Kohanim Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 Hello GreyFox, Your assumption is correct. When ISY connects to ELK, you will see ELK status messages at the top of the Admin Console. As per your screenshot, ISY is not currently communicating with ELK. This could be caused by three things: 1. You do not have the correct firmware version for ELK and ELK's Boot loader 2. When you changed ELK RP settings to support the non-secure port (2101), you didn't press the Send button to activate M1XEP with non-secure port 3. You have ELK RP connected ... ELK RP has to be disconnected for ISY to be able to communicate with ELK For 1, please review: http://www.universal-devices.com/mwiki/ ... quirements For 2, please review: http://www.universal-devices.com/mwiki/ ... guring_Elk With kind regards, Michel
GreyFox Posted January 3, 2012 Author Posted January 3, 2012 Michel, thank you very much for your reply. Indeed, when I was trying earlier I was connected to the M1G with ElkRP. So I have tried again without having the ElkRP application open. The results are the same. I have verified that I sent the activation of the non secure port, 2101, to the M1XEP. I have verified that I have 5.2.4 on the M1g and I have 1.3.28 on the M1XEP. What can I try next?
Michel Kohanim Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Hello GreyFox, My pleasure. So, the remaining question is whether or not M1XEP does actually have the IP address that you have set in the Admin Console. Please go to https://elk.m1xep.address and see if you can communicate with it. With kind regards, Michel
GreyFox Posted January 3, 2012 Author Posted January 3, 2012 Michel, I am quite sure that it has the correct IP address, at least insofar as connecting to it via IP address. I have not tried name resolution. But I connect to it repeatedly with ElkRP, and I have also used Internet Explorer using the IP address you see in one of my pictures, above, which is 10.254.253.30. I can also see this IP address in the ARP table of my router. The IP address, by the way, is set static. I also get to the M1EXP when I am off-premises using HTTPS (The certificate says it was issued by the M1EXP) because I have set up some NAT passthroughs on my router. Starting today and for the next 7 days, I will be off-premises and trying to figure out how to actually connect to both the Elk M1G and the ISY-99i. No doubt another challenge. Thanks again. I am grateful for whatever suggestions you may have. I'm really not trying to build the Shang-Ri-La of home automation. I just want lights to come on and go off, making it look like the place is lived in while I am absent (it's a vacation home), and have lights go on when the alarm system is breached so my cameras can see to photograph the intruder.
apostolakisl Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Michel,I am quite sure that it has the correct IP address, at least insofar as connecting to it via IP address. I have not tried name resolution. But I connect to it repeatedly with ElkRP, and I have also used Internet Explorer using the IP address you see in one of my pictures, above, which is 10.254.253.30. I can also see this IP address in the ARP table of my router. The IP address, by the way, is set static. I also get to the M1EXP when I am off-premises using HTTPS (The certificate says it was issued by the M1EXP) because I have set up some NAT passthroughs on my router. Starting today and for the next 7 days, I will be off-premises and trying to figure out how to actually connect to both the Elk M1G and the ISY-99i. No doubt another challenge. Thanks again. I am grateful for whatever suggestions you may have. I'm really not trying to build the Shang-Ri-La of home automation. I just want lights to come on and go off, making it look like the place is lived in while I am absent (it's a vacation home), and have lights go on when the alarm system is breached so my cameras can see to photograph the intruder. Connecting from offsite is not hard. 1) Assuming you don't have a static IP address for your location, set up a dynamic dns so you don't have to keep figuring out your IP address. Try this one for free. http://www.no-ip.com/ (note: is dyn.com not doing free service anymore. I can't find on their webpage where to sign up for it. My current account still works however) 2) Port forward your router's 443 to whatever IP your ISY is on. 3) Type this into your computer http://www.universal-devices.com/99i/3.1.16/admin.jnlp (substitue 3.1.16 for whatever firmware version you are running) 4) When it says "not found" click "add" and type in https://yourdyndnsname.biz (or .whatever it is) 5) Then double click on it.
GreyFox Posted January 4, 2012 Author Posted January 4, 2012 Actually, I got it done using Internet Explorer. Anyway, the darn Elk is still not talking to the ISY-99i, nor is the ISY-99i talking to the Elk.
Michel Kohanim Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Hello GreyFox, I do apologize for the inconvenience. Please do be kind enough to submit a ticket (link below) and we'll schedule a remote session to see what's going on. With kind regards, Michel
GreyFox Posted January 4, 2012 Author Posted January 4, 2012 Thanks for the reply, and the apology is not necessary. I have submitted a ticket.
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