hart2hart Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Was going through log and thought I had a program triggering twice to set heat and cool setpoint but notice one had user "Program" and other system "System". I assume this is normal per below: Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat Setpoint 70 Sun 2012/06/17 09:00:00 AM Program Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat Setpoint 70 Sun 2012/06/17 09:00:00 AM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 75 Sun 2012/06/17 09:00:00 AM Program Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 75 Sun 2012/06/17 09:00:01 AM System Log Also, see "System" entries that have an unusal number and at odd times. They have been 0,1,119,12,16,255,37, and 38. The most common is 16 and couple follow. Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 0 Fri 2012/07/27 05:22:24 AM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 16 Sat 2012/07/28 07:52:15 AM System Log Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Hello hart2hart, Program entries indicate that a program performed the action. The system entries are those that the thermostat responds with after the command (or those that the thermostat/other devices send on their own). So, the entries are correct: the program changed the set point and the thermostat confirmed the change. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
hart2hart Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 I felt the "System" entry was the reply/update but was more interested in why the strange values from second half of inquiry. Thanks Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Hi hart2hart, The numbers are correct (half of the actual value). But, you are right! You are getting a set point of 0 returned back from your thermostat. This is NOT normal. How many thermostats do yo have and do they all have the same firmware version? And, do they all exhibit the same behavior? Also, do any of your thermostats are part of a scene? And, finally, do you ever use All On/All Off? With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
hart2hart Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Michel: I have three thermostat adapters that are all version 2.2R and they are not members of scenes. I set their heat and cool set points via programs. Only one log entry out of several thousand during a month was for 0. There are a few where the System value is 16 and that occurs on all three thermostats. One of the three thermostats had only one entry with 0. Paul Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Hi Paul, We need to figure out exactly what happens when you get those entries and why they happen. Perhaps couple of programs to send you a notification when these specific conditions happen. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
hart2hart Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Michel: Will create programs for thermostat set point values greater than 80 or less than 60 for each tstat. While, I have not noticied it, I'm guessing you're thinking (or we're trying to determine if) the thermostat actually has these wierd numbers as set points? What else should program include to aid diagnosis? Thanks, Paul Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Hi Paul, yes, precisely. And, I do know of a few cases that this actually happens (set point goes to 0) and, in all those cases, the problem is that someone clicked on the All On/All Off button on ISY. So, we need to make sure that if this happens again, it's not related to an All On/All Off. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
hart2hart Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Michel: I don't use admin console to control devices so dont think all on off is issue. I'll create program to send me text when out of range set points occur. Also I've got month long activity log showing these updates if of value can email etc. Thanks, Paul Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment
hart2hart Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 Yesterday, I got at least 15 text messages telling me that set point values were out of range. I compared text time to log and could tell it was occuring when weatherbug polling occured. Didn't think it was harmful but based on outside temp range warnings reviewed a program that was setting the mode of thermostat to cool every 30 minutes (based on outside temp). Just to see what would happen, I added a variable that tracked mode of thermostat and would not update its mode if had not changed based on temp from last WB poll. I did not get a single out of range message all day. Came home tonight and incorporated this new variable in other programs and accounted for fact someone can set it at thermostat. Doing a bit of testing and issue occured as follows: I have a kepadlinc that my wife can go press a button that will prevent any auotmatic updates to a thermostat. For example if she is cooking or we have lots of people over she will go turn keypadlinc button on which sets a variable and then she goes to thermostat and sets as she wants like down by 3 degrees. From then on all programs that would auto adjust that thermostat have the varible included which prevents them from running. When you turn the button off, its sets variable which triggers programs that will set thermostat to "automated" values it would have if button had not been on. I was testing updates described by adding new variable in other programs so I turned kepadlinc button on (variable was correct), changed thermostat to heat at 69 degrees (confirmed values on ISY), and then turned button off. I got text message telling me Set Point value was out of range. I capured screen in ISY, looked at thermostat which was showing correct value of Cool set point of 73, queried the thermostat which updated to correct value, captured screen again, and pulled section of log. Log follows and portion of screens are attached. Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Off Thu 2012/08/02 06:45:31 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat - C Status Off Thu 2012/08/02 06:45:35 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Thu 2012/08/02 06:45:35 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Heat Thu 2012/08/02 06:45:37 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Heat Thu 2012/08/02 06:45:38 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat Setpoint 69â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:45:39 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Keypad - G Status 0% Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:25 PM System Log Scene:Great Room / Great Room:ThermostatORS Off 0 Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:26 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Cool Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:26 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Cool Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:27 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat Setpoint 71â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:27 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat Setpoint 71â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:28 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 73â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:28 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Cool Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:29 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 16â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:31 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 40% Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:44 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 41% Thu 2012/08/02 06:47:50 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 46% Thu 2012/08/02 06:50:00 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 44% Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:07 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status Queryâ–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:24 PM Web Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:24 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 74â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:25 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Cool Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:25 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Unit 2 Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:26 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 73â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:26 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 44% Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:27 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Fan State Auto Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:27 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat - C Status On Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:28 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Cool On Thu 2012/08/02 06:51:28 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 75â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:52:17 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat - C Status On Thu 2012/08/02 06:53:18 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Cool On Thu 2012/08/02 06:53:18 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 43% Thu 2012/08/02 06:53:25 PM System Log Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Hello hart2hart, Thanks so very much for the details. Can you tell me what is: Scene:Great Room / Great Room:ThermostatORS Off 0 Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:26 PM Program Log Is your thermostat part of a scene? With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
hart2hart Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 None of my thermostats are included in scenes. I prefer to update them using programs -- IMHO much easier to adjust standard setpoints and seems always been isues with Tstats in scenes. Great Room:ThermostatORS scene only contains a button on a Keypadlinc so I can turn if on and off via programs. In fact, it is the button that is turned on to set variable to prevent automatic updates to Great Room thermostats and hence put it in manual override mode. ORS == OverRide Scene. Link table for all three thermostats are identical: Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Hello hart2hart, Thank you. The problem is that I am not sure if this message is sent by the thermostat or by ISY. You see: Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Cool Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:29 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 16â–‘ Thu 2012/08/02 06:46:31 PM System Log The question is: where is this message coming from? Based on the log entry, it's generated by the system. i.e. thermostat->PLM->ISY (system). This said, I am not convinced this to be the case If it's at all possible to reproduce this scenario, may I humbly ask you to open the Event Viewer on level 3 so that we can figure out where the message is coming from? Thanks and with kind regards, Michel Link to comment
hart2hart Posted August 4, 2012 Author Share Posted August 4, 2012 I was out late tonight (and didn't have chance to log in via console and set DON -- done now) and received text that thermostat had been set to cool point 107. Got home and it (Cool Set point area on screen -- no area where it says mode is off) actually was set that high but displayed displayed as 0F. However, Useing arrow key (V) I lowered and watched it go through 99 on way down to normal level. Log from point it occured 9:43 pm till I went to thermostat and physically updated follows. After that is error log which is after we got home and had already changed temp. They look like REST attempts from DSCLink(IP 192.168.1.102) but DSCLink log does not show any errors timeouts or anything out off ordinary -- these may be unrelated but though would provide. Really weird is IP 192.168.1.174 is a Panasonic TV? Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 73â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 09:38:50 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 48% Fri 2012/08/03 09:39:57 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 59% Fri 2012/08/03 09:42:07 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat - C Status Off Fri 2012/08/03 09:42:41 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Fri 2012/08/03 09:42:41 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 74â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 09:43:09 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 107â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 09:43:13 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 61% Fri 2012/08/03 09:43:16 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 57% Fri 2012/08/03 09:44:22 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 75â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 09:45:21 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 74â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 09:45:29 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat - C Status On Fri 2012/08/03 09:46:51 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Cool On Fri 2012/08/03 09:46:51 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 49% Fri 2012/08/03 09:47:39 PM System Log Scene:Dining Room / Dining:Overhead Scene Off 0 Fri 2012/08/03 09:48:00 PM Program Log Dining Room / Dining:Overhead by Butlers Status 0% Fri 2012/08/03 09:48:00 PM System Log Dining Room / Dining:Overhead by Foyer Status 0% Fri 2012/08/03 09:48:00 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 48% Fri 2012/08/03 09:48:47 PM System Log Study / Study:Overhead Off 0 Fri 2012/08/03 09:50:14 PM Program Log Study / Study:Overhead Status 0% Fri 2012/08/03 09:50:15 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 76â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 09:52:55 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat - C Status Off Fri 2012/08/03 09:54:09 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Fri 2012/08/03 09:54:09 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 73â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 09:54:51 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 51% Fri 2012/08/03 09:58:28 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 57% Fri 2012/08/03 09:59:34 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 56% Fri 2012/08/03 10:00:41 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat - C Status On Fri 2012/08/03 10:00:53 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Cool On Fri 2012/08/03 10:00:53 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 75â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:01:49 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 74â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:02:22 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 49% Fri 2012/08/03 10:02:55 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 73â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:03:29 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 74â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:04:35 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 74â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:05:06 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 48% Fri 2012/08/03 10:06:12 PM System Log Basement / Basement:Bandit Heater Off 0 Fri 2012/08/03 10:08:37 PM Program Log Back Porch / Back Porch:Ceiling Fan Off 0 Fri 2012/08/03 10:08:37 PM Program Log Basement / Basement:Bandit Fan Off 0 Fri 2012/08/03 10:08:37 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat - C Status Off Fri 2012/08/03 10:08:55 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Fri 2012/08/03 10:08:55 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 77â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:09:09 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 73â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:09:31 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 47% Fri 2012/08/03 10:10:38 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 48% Fri 2012/08/03 10:11:44 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status Queryâ–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:12:15 PM Web Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Fri 2012/08/03 10:12:16 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 77â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:12:16 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Cool Fri 2012/08/03 10:12:17 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Unit 2 Fri 2012/08/03 10:12:17 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 107â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:12:18 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Humidity 0% Fri 2012/08/03 10:12:18 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Fan State Auto Fri 2012/08/03 10:12:19 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 58% Fri 2012/08/03 10:13:57 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status Queryâ–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:14:17 PM Web Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Fri 2012/08/03 10:14:18 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 77â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:14:18 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Cool Fri 2012/08/03 10:14:19 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Unit 2 Fri 2012/08/03 10:14:19 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 107â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:14:20 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Humidity 0% Fri 2012/08/03 10:14:20 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Fan State Auto Fri 2012/08/03 10:14:21 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 57% Fri 2012/08/03 10:16:09 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat - C Status On Fri 2012/08/03 10:16:55 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Cool On Fri 2012/08/03 10:16:55 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 74â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:17:16 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 75â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:17:32 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 50% Fri 2012/08/03 10:18:22 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 49% Fri 2012/08/03 10:19:28 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 74â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:19:42 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat - C Status Off Fri 2012/08/03 10:23:25 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Fri 2012/08/03 10:23:25 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 73â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 10:25:08 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Seating Overhead Off 0 Fri 2012/08/03 10:28:01 PM Program Log Scene:Garage / Garage:Overhead Scene Off 0 Fri 2012/08/03 10:28:01 PM Program Log Game Room / Game:Seating Overhead Status 0% Fri 2012/08/03 10:28:01 PM System Log Kitchen / Kitchen:Keypad A Status 0% Fri 2012/08/03 10:28:01 PM System Log Garage / Garage:Overhead by Kitchen Status 0% Fri 2012/08/03 10:28:01 PM System Log Garage / Garage:Overhead by Stairs Status 0% Fri 2012/08/03 10:28:01 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 56% Fri 2012/08/03 10:28:04 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat - C Status On Fri 2012/08/03 10:28:19 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat/Cool State 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Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Overhead Status 100% Fri 2012/08/03 11:01:32 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat - C Status Off Fri 2012/08/03 11:02:55 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Fri 2012/08/03 11:02:55 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 73â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 11:03:06 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 48% Fri 2012/08/03 11:04:12 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 49% Fri 2012/08/03 11:06:23 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 57% Fri 2012/08/03 11:07:29 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 58% Fri 2012/08/03 11:08:35 PM System Log Basement / Basement:Bandit Heater Off 0 Fri 2012/08/03 11:08:37 PM Program Log Back Porch / Back Porch:Ceiling Fan Off 0 Fri 2012/08/03 11:08:37 PM Program Log Basement / Basement:Bandit Fan Off 0 Fri 2012/08/03 11:08:37 PM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 74â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 11:09:44 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat - C Status On Fri 2012/08/03 11:10:15 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Cool On Fri 2012/08/03 11:10:15 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 75â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 11:10:22 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 52% Fri 2012/08/03 11:10:52 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 51% Fri 2012/08/03 11:11:58 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 50% Fri 2012/08/03 11:13:05 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 74â–‘ Fri 2012/08/03 11:13:36 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 49% Fri 2012/08/03 11:14:11 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat - C Status Off Fri 2012/08/03 11:16:08 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Fri 2012/08/03 11:16:08 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 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2012/08/03 11:35:52 PM System -170001 0: GET-->/rest/vars/set/2/19/0 Fri 2012/08/03 11:35:52 PM System -170001 [HTTP] Socket not active#2 29 Fri 2012/08/03 11:35:52 PM System -170001 [HTTP] 192.168.1.102:1196->80 Fri 2012/08/03 11:35:52 PM System -170001 0: GET-->/rest/vars/set/2/19/0 Fri 2012/08/03 11:35:53 PM System -170001 [HTTP] Socket not active#2 33 Fri 2012/08/03 11:35:53 PM System -170001 [HTTP] 192.168.1.102:1197->80 Fri 2012/08/03 11:35:53 PM System -170001 0: GET-->/rest/vars/set/2/7/1 Fri 2012/08/03 11:35:53 PM System -170001 [HTTP] Socket not active#2 33 Fri 2012/08/03 11:35:53 PM System -170001 [HTTP] 192.168.1.102:1198->80 Fri 2012/08/03 11:35:53 PM System -170001 0: GET-->/rest/vars/set/2/7/1 Fri 2012/08/03 11:35:53 PM System -170001 [HTTP] Socket not active#2 29 Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Hello hart2hart, Boy, this is not good at all. I do not see any entries indicating any type of command being sent from ISY (Web, Program, etc.) ... the status changed on its own. Is it possible that your thermostat has preconfigured programs/schedules? With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
hart2hart Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 Thermostat is one of the 1 day programmable Venstars and it was in Cool mode at the time. I've never used any of the thermostat's program modes since I control from ISY but I'll look at programming manual and run through to make sure of any odd entries that came from factory. Suppose it could have a bug in it's control function and momentarily switched to Program Cool etc. Link to comment
hart2hart Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 I just pulled Venstar manual and I remembered disabling Program Modes so one wouldn't accidently cycle through them by pressing mode button at thermostat. In addition, I did a quick look at programming that does exist and there are no 107 degree settings. Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Hi hart2hart, That's not good. So, the programs were disabled but we still got those events. Looking at your events, I do not see anything prior to that event that could've caused the set point to jump to 107. i.e. nothing from ISY and nothing from the web. How many thermostats do you have? If more than one, does this happen on all? If not, what are the differences between them? With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
hart2hart Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 I have three thermostats (two are the one day programable and one is sevenday programable with optional humidity sensor installed -- per previous posting links table is same for all) and so far I've only seen phantom entries where isy would show 16 degrees but thermostat was correct and the number of these has gone down to one or less per day since I created variable to track thermostat mode and not update again until it changes (was sending mode on almost every weatherbug poll as temp would change). 36 times last month 16 degres showed up after a Cool set point but only start looking recently via eyes and programs so not sure when it was actally showing up at ISY. Example follows: Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Thermostat Mode Cool Sun 2012/07/01 10:58:36 AM Program Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Cool Setpoint 16? Sun 2012/07/01 10:58:36 AM System Log There was an entry last month where status was 107 degrees -- probably not real since we were home and it would've been hot as hell (it was that hot outside on a few days). Small section of log follows: Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat - C Status Off Sat 2012/07/07 01:34:30 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Off Sat 2012/07/07 01:34:30 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 76? Sat 2012/07/07 01:34:51 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 49% Sat 2012/07/07 01:36:23 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 77? Sat 2012/07/07 01:37:08 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 76? Sat 2012/07/07 01:38:15 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 50% Sat 2012/07/07 01:39:39 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 49% Sat 2012/07/07 01:40:45 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 48% Sat 2012/07/07 01:41:51 PM System Log Office / Office:Overhead Status 0% Sat 2012/07/07 01:42:48 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 107? Sat 2012/07/07 01:44:32 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 77? Sat 2012/07/07 01:45:55 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 47% Sat 2012/07/07 01:48:18 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat - C Status On Sat 2012/07/07 01:50:23 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Cool On Sat 2012/07/07 01:50:23 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 78? Sat 2012/07/07 01:51:01 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 76? Sat 2012/07/07 01:51:23 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Humidity 45% Sat 2012/07/07 01:51:33 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat - C Status On Sat 2012/07/07 01:52:01 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Heat/Cool State Cool On Sat 2012/07/07 01:52:01 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 77? Sat 2012/07/07 01:52:31 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 78? Sat 2012/07/07 01:52:42 PM System Log Master Suite / Master Bedroom:Thermostat Status 77? Sat 2012/07/07 01:53:12 PM System Log Game Room / Game:Thermostat Status 76? Sat 2012/07/07 01:53:42 PM System Log Great Room / Great Room:Thermostat Status 77? Sat 2012/07/07 01:53:48 PM System Log Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Hi hart2hart, So, you have this problem with at least two of your thermostats. How about the third one? And, what's the difference between these two and the third? With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
hart2hart Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 Michel: Nothing different in HW, links, and programs. Just to be clear the first instance I listed was a cool set point and second instance (which occcured last month) was showing temp status of 107 but not a set point. Also, do you have any thetoy on 16 degree phantom entries like one above. Obviously 16 is significant as 10 hex... Are these just standard replies. Don't recall you describing.. As always thanks for support. Paul Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Hi hart2hart, I really have no explanations and trying to figure out how to reproduce to make sure it's not a bug in our firmware. I have tried every possible permutation and the only time I get crazy values is if the thermostat is in a scene (yours are not). I am quite concerned that that thermostat is sending bogus values. Any help/pointers would be extremely appreciated. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
hart2hart Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 I went to ISY console and set DON. Can same be done so regular log has more details without having event viewer open? Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Unfortunately not for INSTEON traffic since the system becomes quite slow. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
hart2hart Posted August 10, 2012 Author Share Posted August 10, 2012 I had been setting thermostat mode based on outside temp so once outside temp was less than or greater than specified values each subsequent WeatherBug poll triggered program which set mode same to its current value. I knew it occurred but since only once per hour was not concerned. However, looked like it might be triggering phantom values so I've optimized my tstat programs using variables to only set mode when it actually changes. I'm still getting phantom set point values (255 last night) so I now believe bogus values can occur following any mode change .... to same or different mode. Link to comment
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