stillen_i30 Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 I have front and backyard landscape and coach lights set on a timer via a program that has since been failsafe and ran 99% of the time reliably. I've lately been updating and adding to my vast array of insteon devices. I've noticed twice now that my outside lights never turned on via the program. Is there any way for me to find out why? The programs are all enabled and were even listed as "True" in the summary screen, telling me the times they were to turn off under the "Next time to run" column. TIA
LeeG Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 Does the Last Run Time column indicate the expected time the Program should have been triggered? If so, with the True Status, there could be a comm problem developing, or some of the devices have lost link records. Right click the Scene name, select Diagnostics | Scene Test. If the Scene test is successful then there is likely a comm problem. If the Scene test fails it could be a comm problem but more likely a link record problem. Try a Restore Device on a device that fails the Scene Test and run Scene Test again.
stillen_i30 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Posted August 31, 2012 Thanks for the suggestions. I did notice a few days ago that a KPL in a guest room we barely use had lost some of its links as it was not updating status real-time in my ISY console. When I did "restore device" on the KPL, then it was working. I thought the ISY goes through on a regular basis to restore links and ensure things are all squared-away?
LeeG Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 The ISY does not restore links on it own initiative.
stillen_i30 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Posted August 31, 2012 can i do a global restoration without screwing anything up or is it best to leave everything alone for now?
LeeG Posted August 31, 2012 Posted August 31, 2012 First thing is to determine what the problem is. Does the Last Run Time indicate the Program was triggered when it should have. This determines whether the issue is something that prevents the Program from running to some action (Scene or Direct command) did not function as expected. No sense restoring devices that did not respond if the Program did not trigger. It is also important to know if the Scene Test is successful. If the Scene Test is successful there are not link record issues.
stillen_i30 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Posted September 1, 2012 So tonight, the funny behavior with various insteon-controlled devices around the house continue to act funny. I have landscape lights in the front and in the back, controlled by separate insteon devices but all set to turn on and off at exactly the same time. It has worked flawlessly for over a year now until lately when I've begun adding and re-arranging some of my insteon devices. So today, the backyard landscape lights turned off on schedule but the front ones remain on. This has never happened before until today. The last run time does show the proper time the lights SHOULD have turned off. Since these lights are not on a scene, I cannot run the scene test command. Am I looking at potentially bad links?
LeeG Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 No. Link records are associated with Scenes. Direct device control commands do not use links. Is this a single program that issues commands to multiple devices or multiple programs running at the same time.
oberkc Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 It has worked flawlessly for over a year now until lately when I've begun adding and re-arranging some of my insteon devices. How many of these are dual-band devices and have you ensured that you continue to provide a communication bridge across the legs of your electrical system?
stillen_i30 Posted September 1, 2012 Author Posted September 1, 2012 There are 2 programs controlling 3 sets of landscape lights. Each set is controlled by a wire-in dual-band in-line linc on/off controller. One of the two programs issues the same commands to two of the different dual band devices (each connected to a low voltage transformer, connected to a bank of lights). The second program controls the other dual band inlinelinc to the front yard transformer and its lights. I have several dualband devices in the house (probably 40% of my devices are dual band). I have about 40 insteon devices (various switches, modules, in-line lincs, etc). I have I believe four phases (two separate circuit breaker panels). All phases have a dual band device on it. Which brings me to another question...how reliable are these dual band wired-in switches etc? I ask because I have a dual-band wired-in device in my garage. My remote linc a few feet away does not respond at all. I had to purchase a separate access point to place nearby the remotelinc which is still flaky). Not many other RF devices running to conflict except WiFi-dual band.
oberkc Posted September 1, 2012 Posted September 1, 2012 I stll believe you have only two legs in your electrical system, despite having two panels. I can't say how reliable are dual-band devices (don't have any beyond access points). If you haven't done so, I think I would still confirm you have legs coupled, following the directions in the manual (encompasses four rapid button presses, I think).
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