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@LeeG I had the idea he may have wrote the low level code to I/F with the PLM. He knew the Insteon codes too well. He was our guru and we miss him.

It's an AI clone!

Just for the confusion that may happen here. The thread subject matter shifted to order of operations of program lines. I think we killed the order of operations of programs, again.

This is still an issue (next day). I tried some of the old tricks, including resetting every device's location, removing the apartment number, to comply with the suggested location address, changing the country to US, etc.. Skill still is not allowed to be enabled "due to geographic restrictions". This also happened years ago, when the skill was first being developed, but has worked without problems for many years, until yesterday again. Based on the sudden nonsense answers Alexa gave us for most device control attempts, this appears to be an amazon bug, so far. Contact with them has been unfruitful, so far.

@bmercier My Alexa speakers suddenly have started to spout nonsense to me. When asked to turn on all lights, it responds with I don't have any spaghetti. This seem to be only ISY relate topics. After many trials to repair this I finally unlinked the ISY Portal account from Alexa and when I attempted to reconnect it it tells me I am not allowed to enable the skill due to geographic restrictions. I have gone through the setup of all my Alexa speakers and standardised my location exactly the same. Any ideas?

Yes, I remember the conversation about order of execution a year or so back, and after some testing I found to be nonsense on my system.

You are only editing the IoX copy of the programs so the changes need to be installed into the ISY machine. Now I am beginning to wonder if the method of updating variable names and values has had the same logic applied to them, where you now need to save them also. That wasn't the case a few versions ago but you may not find them in the pulldown menus of the program editing page.

Each element that can cause triggers likely has a list/stack of other elements to check should the value change. There is no looping required. IIRC, spread sheets did this looping for value changes. Of course there may be a background looping algorithm, as we know the code exist anyway, for power up conditions, where there are no triggers happen to update the database.

I think the IoX Launcher must fire out a generic "are you out there" packet and any ISY machine is supposed to answer. Sometimes the router isn't ready on time. I had a lot of problems with fast power blinks where equipment would see the power blink and re-initialise but the router would not, and not ask for any equipment to report in, for registration in the DHCP table.

Agreed, but the Else redirect is required if a Control On off is present in the If section. This avoids further program usage to permit [Run at Startup] to function since, as you above logic, a Control X condition will never be true unless that event called the evaluation. Run at Startup would always evaluate False and run Else, and not start any looping program lines.

There is likely an order to processing and I have good idea what that may be but it could change in any future version so it must be considered undefined. If a particular order is required then it must be forced by the user using Waits or Repeats and or with semaphore techniques.

I hear you! Even though most of the spy style softwares can be disabled the latest trick eveyone is using is "For our security, we have forced another update on your working system so we can install new features and new methods of disabling everything. Of course, we have turned everything back on, so you can experience the same amount of time we have spent, attempting to force these spy features on you one more time. We know you are disabling these items and we are watching you"

Does ecobee not include a huge roundish plate to cover everything, inside the kit now? I have a huge hole under mine. I wasn't happy with the size and looks of the wider white plate but it does cover that hole. Now my problem is the building is pressurized and whatever air they pump through the structure is what the stat sees. I need to fabricate an insulated cover plate.

IIRC the 2 Insteon 2441-WTH stats I had transmit all F degrees and ISY converts the temps to C. They are not capable of transmitting negative temperatures so transmitting C would limit your F range to only 32F and up. They didn't use signed binary so couldn't transmit negative values.

I have been holding off on anything Matter. I have a few dozen Insteon plug-ins that I will never use now. I started on Z-wave buy a z700 dongle and a few plug-ins but once I saw the 1990s style interfaces incorporated into ISY and the poor quality system complaints, some of my new units have never been out of their boxes. The Matter implementation is over Ethernet via LAN so I haven't seen any reason to make any jumps to it until the clothes come out of the wash totally clean. Most of my lighting is multi-coloured RGBWW/CW WiFi bulbs and they work very quite well without any cloud connections at all. Of course my 18-20 bulbs are getting to be 6-8 years old now.