Yep deadbolt is extended. The ISY (and router and all) is probably about 40' away
I believe I got the thing excluded finally from the hub. I did a general device exclusion on the phone, punched in the code + 0 on the lot and got the check mark. So that's progress.
So now the hub should not be in the mix at all right? I have no "things" in the ST app on the phone now.
But if I go to the ISY admin console, and go to z wave add/include, it says listening, then I go put the code in, and it says "the z wave network failed to securely include your new device. Please exclude the device and try including it again." So I did the exclude on the ISY admin consol, and this time I got the green light after I put in the code. Then I did the add on the admin console, this time it found it and started to do things but then came back and said it failed to securely include your new device and try again.