Xathros

I'm not entirely sure, however, if your login credentials haven't changes and conductor is failing to log in, there is a strong possibility that the certificate that conductor has is mismatched with that of the ISY. It wouldn't hurt to clear that on the android and let it re-accept what the ISY has. EDIT: I was just reading a bit over on the Conductor for Android forum and see that there is another person having the same problem after adding a FanLinc to their ISY. I wonder if there is some I2CS issue with conductor that shows up like an authentication error. Anyway, the recomendation there was to switch to Mobilinc for android. I love Mobilinc on my iPhone and Wes (the developer of Mobilinc) is as responsive and helpful as the UDI crew so support is not a concern. -Xathros

hbsh01- I suspect your android phone has an old certificate for the ISY and needs to accept a new one after the upgrade. I don't know how to delete the existing cert on android but if you can find that and remove the old cert then allow it to accept a new one that may resolve your failure to authenticate from conductor. I too had issues with my web host's SMTP with the ISY and switched to gmail's SMTP. I've had no issues with notifications since. -Xathros

It sounds like those have been eliminated then. Hopefully there will be something useful in the logs. EDIT: Another thing to consider, Is it possible you have another device on your network that is statically configured for the address that your router has issued the ISY ? Or, another device offering DHCP services on the same subnet ? To test, you could temproarily disconnect the ISY then try to ping that IP from a computer and see if you get a reply. If so, you have an IP conflict at that address. -Xathros

I wonder if the combo of the new IOLinc and Conductor is whats causing the lockup. Can you either remove the IOLinc or disable Conductor for a little while to see if the lockups stop ? -Xathros EDIT: I see Michel is on the case here. I'll step back and watch unless something jumps out at me.

Can you check your error log and see whats showing up there since the upgrade. -Xathros

You can certainly configure things such that you could do all of the control from one place. You would still be able to control the second ISY or Smartlink independently if you wanted as well. -Xathros

I'm sorry to hear that. I still wonder if there is a way to trick the transfer switch into thinking that utility power has been restored or to tap into the control circuitry at that point to tell the generator to do a normal shutdown. Please do let us know if you find a workable solution. -Xathros

Excellent. Please let us know how it works out for you. I have some long term plans for doing something similar at my place. -Xathros

There is another configuration that I had considered and rejected. Run the 24V over the existing 2 wire to the Venstar. Add EZIO or IOLinc at the furnace/zone valve/pump whatever for the contact closure and use the ISY to Monitor the tstat and control the zone. Only reason I rejected this is in the event of a comm failure a zone could be left on or fail to turn on. A periodic query could fix that issue as lons as comm failurs are rare in your setup. I preferred to have the tstat do the control directly. -Xathros

Jeff- I don't believe there are any stack issues with this. I have something similar on my ISY and haven't had any problems. As for copy paste, right click the program name in the tree on the left, select Copy to Clipboard. HTH -Xathros

PLCG- I ran into the exact same issue with my setup although mine is a single zone forced hot air system. I tried to find a way to just do a 3 wire run from the furnace to the Venstar but couldn't find a way to get the necessary connections at the furnace. I ended up buying a 24VAC transformer, pulling a run of 3 wire tstat wire to the tstat location and building a small relay circuit at the furnace to interface to the 2 wire line from the furnace. As I recall, I cost me all of about $20 for the wire and components from Radio Shack and another $20 for the transformer and jbox to mount that to. This has to be a fairly common problem and I'm surprised that nobody sells a conversion kit like this already built. If they do, I was unable to search it out. -Xathros

pikach- Are both buildings on the same Ethernet network ? If so, An ISY (with the network resources module and either a dual band PLM or an access point) for the building with the thermostat. The dual band PLM or access point are required to communicate with the RF only thermostat. For the other building, you may be able to use a SmartLinc controller for the Insteon devices there and operate those over Ethernet from the network resources module via the SmartLinc. Not nearly as nice as having them all on the same Insteon network but I think this can meet your stated need. Michel, LeeG - Thought or comments on this approach ? -Xathros

I'm not sure that inside the generator would be a friendly location for an IOLinc. There won't be line power there or a connection back to the rest of the insteon network unless the generator is running and the transfer switch has flipped to the generator side. This means no comms with that IOLinc under normal conditions. Also, the power at startup and shutdown of the generator is not going to be nice. I'm not sure how well the IOLinc will stand up to that. I think the house side of the transfer switch is the best place for the IOLinc to live. Thinking a bit more about the remote shutdown aspect, Cutting the power to the CDI is probably not a good idea as the generator will still likely continue trying to start thereby running down the starter battery. The low oil switch *should* prevent it from trying tho there may still be an active drain on the starter battery. Some testing beforehand should be done. I would think there is a method for taking the generator offline that you may be able to tap into and with any luck, that may be at the transfer switch. -Xathros

It's safer to do locally however, I have done this remote a number of times without issue. If you feel that you have a solid connection from the remote location to the ISY then you should be alright. If you have problems making the backup due to the remote connection, that would be a good indication that you are likely to have similar issues during the upgrade. In that case I'd say wait until you can work locally. -Xathros

hbsh01- Don't worry. Everything is retained through the upgrade. The first part of the update process prompts you to make a backup just in case anything goes wrong. Make sure you clear your Java cache AFTER the upgrade and BEFORE you attempt to log back into the admin console. -Xathros

Nice looking installation there. Congrats! As for the remote shutdown my bet would be the low oil switch circuit for an easy relay operated remote generator shutdown. Of course, this means another pair run out to the generator. Otherwise maybe look for the V+ for the CDI and put some relay contacts in series with that line. -Xathros

Thanks for the explanation Wes. This is a capability I didn't know existed in Mobilinc. I'll have to see if I can simplify any of my configuration using this. -Xathros

The proper way to accomplish what you want in Mobilinc would be to make the scene for your 3way(s) a favorite(s). Make any other standalone devices favorites then everything you want will be on the favorites page in Mobilinc. You will control the 3way with a scene and the standalone devices as devices. I will have to play with the device icon thing that you mentioned. I don't believe that is the way it was intended to work. -Xathros UPDATE: I can confirm the device Icon in MobilincHD (Latest Version) acts as a scene controller for multiway configurations when accessed from a member device's device page.

SetMonkey13- My RemoteLincs are in toggle mode so the LEDs alternate between red/green but since I'm under program control my lights toggle regardless of the red/green state of the buttons. In one case, I have a single RemoteLinc button cycle through (low-med-high-off) for my bedroom ceiling fan with faston/fastoff presses setting the fan off regardless of where it was in the cycle. -Xathros

I have been running my ISY-99 with my MAC's for several years now with no complaints. I download ISY firmware images with Firefox rather than Safari and choose "Save" when prompted to "Open or Save" the download. -Xathros

Is it possible that the ISY's static address is within the DHCP range on your router and the address has been issued to another device on your network (ip conflict) ? -Xathros

scotcarter- I find that all new scenes that I create will appear at the very bottom of the device/folder/scene list in the order created until I quit and reload the console at which point they appear in the proper alpha sort position. Make sure you have scrolled to the bottom of the list to see if they show there. -Xathros

I think the problem is the motion sensor has not turned off yet. Unless it's in occupancy mode then there is a timeout that needs to run out before it turns off and becomes capable of sending "On" again. LeeG has an excellent understanding of these beasts and will hopefully chime in here. -Xathros

Sure. No problem with that at all. If you have a lot of devices then 5 seconds may not be a long enough wait for the first flood of traffic to subside. Pop open the event monitor and watch the traffic when you set that scene off manually. That should give you a feel for the timing. Also, if you have previously added that RL button to a scene, make sure you remove the button from any scenes its in and update the RL first or you may get some unexpected results if not just some extra traffic. I handle ALL of my RL buttons via program for just the reason you mentioned and so the toggle mode doesn't get out of sync when a scene is controlled by other devices or ISY. This makes for a lot of programs but I can manage programming without having access to the RL to write updates every time I change something. Never do I have to press a RL button more than once to toggle a scene. -Xathros

Hi Rich- How about create your scene but don't include the remotelinc button in it. Then create a program like: If Control RemoteLinc.A On or Control RemoteLinc.A Off Then Set Scene TheWorks Off Else I think that will do what you want independent of the Remotelinc configuration. -Xathros