K-bert

This sounds like exactly what I have be looking for to control the permanently installed holiday lights on my house through my EISY! However, I have never installed a node that isn't listed in the plugin store. I am going to have to read up on how to do that. K

I received a reply to my ticket stating that it has been figured out and will be in the next update. Mind you, that may just be for my area (Alberta, Canada). K

This worked! It took two tries for each step (setting location to Regina to get time, and entering my lat/long to get sunrise and sunset times). I work in Calgary, but I live in Cochrane.

I am having the same issue. I live just outside of Calgary. I opened a ticket for this yesterday. I was told to use eisy-ui and click the "i" and select "Off" under the DST Rule and then adjust the Time Zone Offset manually. I did this: However, after clicking save the incorrect time was displayed still (one hour behind): When I clicked on the "i" again it had reverted to UCT -7: Its frustrating when there are so many time of day programs running. K

I can try that tonight. As I said I do have a ticket open. I sent the link table image to them as well and have been told that the link table looking like it does is a bug in AC. I will be shipping one of the switches to UD tomorrow so they can test it. Provided this thread is still open at that point I will keep updating what happens. K

With the first switch I did look at the event view, and there was no event shown when the switch was operated manually. I have not done this with the new switch. I am not home at the moment so I cannot do the event viewer as I cannot operate the switch. I have opened a ticket with UD and have been walked through finding the device int he PLM links table. It was listed twice: 133 : 0085 : E2 00 71.FC.E9 02 2A 45 134 : 0086 : A2 01 71.FC.E9 02 2A 45 The PLM address is 45.80.E2 v9E K

Not a good one. I originally had a USB PLM that was connected to a Raspberry Pi. I then upgraded to an ISY994 and bought a Serial PLM to go with it. When I upgraded to the EISY I used the USB PLM, but a couple years ago it failed and I switched to the serial PLM. K

Well, I was wrong. I purchased a new on/off switch and put it into my test rig. It acts exactly the same way. I added it to the admin console and that worked. I can once again control and query it from the EISY, but when I operate it manually it does not update its status. Since this is a brand new device I am sure that the problem is not the switch itself. I now have two good, but not really working switches. K

I built a "test rig" with some spare parts. Its a power cable I cut and a plastic electrical box. I was then able to plug it in easily to test it. I did a factory reset with the air gap as per the instructions and then added it to my IoX again. Same issue. Responds to queries and sent instructions, but does not send a status change when operated manually. Calling this one defective. Thank you, K

No, the working keypad is from long before i3 ever became a thing. The switch that isn't working is also not an i3. K

I have a six button keypad switch in my ensuite that I am using to control the ensuite fan. The on and off buttons turn the fan on and off. The other four buttons are labelled as 15min, 30min, 1hour, 2hour. These are controllers in scenes with the on/off buttons set up to respond. So if any of the buttons are pressed the fan comes one. Also the hot water circulation pump is activated. And if the water closet door is open it turns that on as well. The water closet has a Lutron Z-wave switch that I bought when Insteon went out of business years ago. When any of these four buttons are pressed they activate a timing program in my EISY to turn off the fan scene that is running in the time listed on the button. I was gifted a brand new Insteon On/Off switch in March. Tonight I finally decided what I wanted to do with it. Since my wife and I always select the 2 hour option I figured I would put this switch in the place of the six button keypad and then move the keypad to the powder room on the main floor to use the timer functions on that fan. I want to put a switch here because I have a Zooz 4 in 1 zwave sensor on the way that I plan to use the motion sensor to turn the hot water circulation on and the humidity sensor to turn the fans on. Just like the setup I have in the main bathroom. I removed the keypad and installed the switch. I then added the device in the admin console. I was able to turn it on and off from the console. So I created a new scene to get it to control the circulation pump as well as the water closet fan. The first oddity was that the water closet fan would not update the command to "on" in the scene. I could do all the other commands (off, query, etc), but not on. This was minor. I plan to swap out all my Lutron devices with either Insteon or a device that follow proper z-wave protocols. I ran into an issue when I tried to operate the switch manually. The status did not change in the admin console. So I tried to operate it with the console and it worked fine, but whenever I operated it manually it did not activate anything other device in the scene or update its status on the console. I tried a query and that worked. I opened the event viewer and when i sent commands or did a query I could see the traffic to device, but nothing if operated manually. Is there something I should try to troubleshoot this? Or do I just have a bad device? I ended up putting the keypad back and restoring my IoX with a backup I made before swapping out the device. Cheers, K

I apologize, it has been some time since I added code to a post. I have also made the changes to my programs that you suggested. Here they are: Variable Control Rear Door Open - [ID 00F6][Parent 00AF] If 'Devices / 7-Doors / Back Door (On=Closed)' Status is Off Then $sRearDoorOpen = 1 Else $sRearDoorOpen = 0 Lights On Door triggered backyard light On - [ID 00B7][Parent 00AF] If From Sunset To Sunrise (next day) And $sRearDoorOpen is 1 Then Set 'Scenes / Outside / Path Lights' On Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Lights Off Door triggered backyard light Off - [ID 00C2][Parent 00AF] If $sRearDoorOpen is 0 Then Wait 5 minutes Set 'Scenes / Outside / Path Lights' Off Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') The weirdness comes in with the motion sensor. I thought that it worked that so long as the Sense #1 wire was set to line voltage that the micro module would turn on, regardless if it were already on or off. Like using the mobile app to turn on any Insteon switch pressing the on button locally on the switch would not change it. I know that without the micro module in place the motion sensor provided line voltage to the lights so long as its light sensor deemed it dark enough and it detected motion. It then keeps the line voltage to the lights for as long as it is set to, which is changed by the dial on the bottom. Mine is about five minutes. What is happening to me is when the micro module is already in the On state activated by the door opening and then I step onto the porch the motion sensor puts line voltage on the Sense #1 wire and the scene is being turned Off. Looking at the manual for the micro module I am wondering if I have is set to "Single momentary" instead of "Latching" mode. The more I think about it the more adding a second micro module may be the best way to get my desired outcome. As other have mentioned separating the sensing and the control is the best way to go. I would like it to come on for five minutes when motion is detected. The motion sensor turns the lights off after its built in timer regardless if there is still motion, but it will turn them on right away again if there is. I would also like them to come on when the back door is opened and then off again five minutes after the back door is closed. However, if I were entertaining in the back yard it the motion sensor would detect us and send an off signal to the module after five minutes, which would override the program keeping the lights on by monitoring the back door. I think the best course of action is: Acquire second micro module Wire second one in so it senses the motion Turn down the time the motion sensor provides line voltage to the module to keep triggering a motion detected program to set a variable Uses a program that turns on the light when either the back door is open or motion is detected Use a separate program to turn the light off five minutes after the door is closed or the motion detected variable is zero The program in step two I would probably set to set a variable to 1 when motion is detected, wait a minute and set it back to zero. This would start the countdown in the program in step 5, but if motion is detected again in the next four minutes it would reset the off program keeping the lights on so long as there is motion. Sorry, I realize I just did a stream of consciousness dump. K-bert

Its a possibility, but the cost of two outdoor smart floodlights that would fit into this fixture is not much less than a second micro module, and in some cases much more. At least according to my quick internet search. I also currently only have Insteon and z-wave devices in my house. Depending on which type of smart bulb used I would have to get some controller hardware that polyglot can talk to.

I have lived with it without having the door control for this long, so I can live with it in its current configuration for now. I will play with some options and programs and see if I can get it working like I would like to. Otherwise I will pick up a couple more micro modules when my wife isn't looking. K-bert

I am not arguing. It is not an insteon motion sensor. It is a motion sensor that is triggering an insteon micro module. The micro module then controls the lights. As I mentioned before there is no way that I know of to prevent the output of the micro module from following the input, or sense wire. If I could pulling apart the sensing and control would be child's play. The only way I can separate the motion sensor from the lights in this setup is to add a second micro module. Because this is retrofitted into existing wiring I can't use the micro module at the sensor to detect motion and a switch on the wall inside to turn on the lights as there would be no power in the electrical box where the light is for the micro module. I also cannot use an insteon motion sensor as it simply would not survive outside in our harsh winters. K-bert